10/22 suppressed or bolt action suppressed 22LR

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In the market to purchase either a 10/22 with threaded barrel with a suppressor or a bolt action 22 lr and use the suppressor.

10/22 would use standard velo bullets to ensure action would cycle.
Bolt action could use standard velo or subsonics.

Anybody have any input on this? Is the bolt action significantly quieter than the 10/22?
I like the idea of the semi for follow up shots as you don't have to take head/hands off gun to rack the bolt. But I also like the idea of subsonic and being absolutely silent.

Is the semi auto shooting standard much louder than the bolt shooting subs?

Thanks!!
 
I have both. Not that it’s a criteria, but if you plan to suppress the bolt is much quieter. I feel personally it’s a tad more accurate too.
I too have both and agree 100%. If 'quiet' is the priority, bolt action is the way to go.

I have two suppressed 10/22s with integral suppressors, one an AAC 'Cloak' I bought in 2003, the other an AB MELB I just got.

I have two rimfire 'cans' that I use on bolt action rifles (CZ455s & 457s) and a Ruger pistol, a YHM Phantom and an AB Little Bird.

Beyond what noise can be suppressed at the muzzle, the 10/22 has two additional sources of noise:
1) 'Port pop', where the bolt opens slightly before pressure has fully subsided, allowing gas to leak out and create a small report.
2) 'Bolt slap', the sound of the bolt cycling. It smacks open and smacks closed. Some bolt slap can be reduced by using a soft bolt stop pin. Using sub-sonic ammo also helps keep bolt speed and action noise down.

While neither of these noises are horrible, they ARE audible and do contribute to the overall sound level.

I have a few Volquartsen .22 short mags for the 10/22s and when used with CCI CB Shorts, it is incredibly quiet. Since the CB Shorts won't cycle the gun, there is minimal port pop and no bolt slap. Accuracy is mediocre and drop is pretty bad.

My bolt action rifles with either can are extremely quiet and with sub-sonic/match ammo, the main noise components are the striker dropping and the bullet hitting the target. Most people shooting one for the first time think they got a misfire.

The mainly stock 10/22 with the AAC suppressed barrel is extremely accurate, typically delivering 1/2" 5-shot groups at 50 yards with CCI standard velocity. I haven't tested the AB barrel yet. Some 10/22s, like Kidd, can be extremely precise.

The best bolt action CZ I have so far is the 455 VPT with the Manners stock. With SK ammo, it is shooting 1/4" groups or smaller at 50 yards, with or without a suppressor. I just bought a threaded match grade CZ457 VPC MTR (16" & 20" 'blems' on sale at KYGunCo) that should do at least as well, but I haven't had a chance to get to the range with it yet.

FWIW, most 'standard velocity' ammo is just barely sub-sonic, as is most match ammo, usually running around 1,060 to 1,080 fps. Most ammo marked 'sub-sonic' is only a little slower, usually running around 1,040-1,060 fps.
 
Bolt gun hands down. 16" barrel and enjoy the quiet. Keep it around 1000fps. I got some cci segmented that are 760fps I think and they whistle compared to a slightly faster bullet
 
I use suppressors on both and the bolt is definitely quieter. I also use the CCI segmented ammo as mentioned in the previous post for killing grouse in the head. The impact seems louder that the gun firing.
 
Bolt is quieter. Also doesn't gum up as quick as the 10/22. Mine can start acting up after only 30 rounds or so. It does have a match barrel on it though.

Quick clean and it's back to shooting fine.
 
The tacsol and volquartsen are built to not gunk up as fast as a 10/22, the ones I’ve used have not been cleaned even after thousands of rounds.

Bolt guns are more quiet though.
 
Bolt action is more quieter.

Before buying a suppressor, have you ever used

C-BEE 22, 22 LR, 33 Grain, Plated Truncated Cone Hollow Point, 740 fps​


They are sold on the shelf and level of quiet in my one 22LR, fire, and literally a pellet rifle is more louder. Also, some 1050fps ammo fired is not loud at all, air gun loud in 20" barrels.

Yes a suppressor is quiet with subsonic ammo, but 22LR ammo can be pretty quiet @ 700fps - 900fps levels with a 20" bolt action. Even my semiautos aren't loud @1050fps, cycle action, for woods use.

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I have a TX22 and 10/22 Charger that I shoot with a Q Erector. Both guns get disgusting after several hundred rounds of CCI standard, to the point it'll start having random feeding issues. They are both super fun when they are clean and smooth. I shot my friend's Springfield 2020 22lr with my can and it was just as fun and quiet. There would be little to no feeding issues with that rifle, due to the lower round count.
 
At the shooter the boot gun is way quieter.

To bystanders they are both very quiet. Shooting both I have had guys ask me why I dry fire so often. Lol
 
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