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  1. J

    6.5 PRC 156 Berger Elite hunter load help

    I still question it….if Im over max by 3.5 and not compressed then I just don’t see how 55.7 is compressed at 2.955 and I’m at 3.1. If anybody has QL they could run the numbers real quick and see if their numbers are accurate with the different COAL.
  2. J

    6.5 PRC 156 Berger Elite hunter load help

    Lol and I’m 3.5 over max. I’m going say they made a mistake. For the N565 there is absolutely no way you’re 102% full at 55.7
  3. J

    6.5 PRC 156 Berger Elite hunter load help

    In ADG brass at 59.2 I still have room. If I shake the case I can hear the powder moving around. But according to one of their charts I would be something like 110% full. I am running something like 3.1” oal, can’t remember exactly.
  4. J

    6.5 PRC 156 Berger Elite hunter load help

    Yeah that’s different from the one they first published. Do you think the one above is extremely safe? Heck when I did my pressure test I started off with 57 of N565. Here’s the data they gave me.
  5. J

    6.5 PRC 156 Berger Elite hunter load help

    What did they give you for load data? From what I’ve seen they have changed their data and their current data is more “safe”. I’m running 59.2 of N565 in ADG brass. On other forums people loose their shit and say I’m exceeding books; however, Berger gave me data of 59.9 max.
  6. J

    Who was in line in Idaho today?

    I ended up getting Elk and Mule deer in McCall.
  7. J

    RokStok

    Any update on when UM will open orders again? Looking to get a REM LA for my 300 wm. It’s a factory rifle Fierce and I absolutely hate the stock.
  8. J

    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Agreed. Seems like they (two of main guys) like to discredit people and when they get challenged or called out they just delete post or shut down thread. I’m looking to build a 6mm of some kind, does anybody have a situation where a small caliber failed? I know it probably doesn’t get...
  9. J

    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    I was watching a conversation over on Long Range Only about small calibers. I just got to say it was kind of comical how defensive those editors get over there. One guy was making an argument for small calibers and they kept saying he was wrong and Form “a god from another site” was also...
  10. J

    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    I shot 2 deer this season with a Berger 215 and I have to say I will never use this bullet on whitetail again. It’s just too destructive. The second picture only holding the shoulder/leg was a tiny piece of skin otherwise it would have blown the shoulder/leg completely off……this is just a...
  11. J

    RokStok

    Any update or projected weight of Lite Rokstok?
  12. J

    6.5 PRC Load Dev - Did annealing change pressure?

    No. Both days around 80
  13. J

    6.5 PRC Load Dev - Did annealing change pressure?

    That’s good to know. I didn’t realize going from virgin to 1x fired would make that big of difference, but like everybody is mentioning I’m on the edge of pressure. I’m probably going to disassemble my firing control so I can get accurate headspace and bump shoulder accordingly.
  14. J

    6.5 PRC Load Dev - Did annealing change pressure?

    No I don’t.
  15. J

    6.5 PRC Load Dev - Did annealing change pressure?

    Yeah I trim per Berger’s reloading manual “trim length”. I’m starting to think it’s because of the sizing and not bumping the shoulder any yet. I think I’m going to test two different things: 1. Reduce charge. 2. Try sizing back to .003 BTS of virgin brass.
  16. J

    6.5 PRC Load Dev - Did annealing change pressure?

    Only cleaned it twice so far. I typically don’t clean till after hunting season and sits in the safe for couple months.
  17. J

    6.5 PRC Load Dev - Did annealing change pressure?

    @SloppyJ yeah the gun is new (built by the man Dallas), but I got about 300 rounds down it. I believe it already sped up cuz I had to back down my charge already. I was loading 59.9 and had to back down to 59.2 to get same velocity. My neck tension is at .001”. They are all loaded at .020”...
  18. J

    6.5 PRC Load Dev - Did annealing change pressure?

    @huntnful how would you read those 3 groups 58.6, 58.8, and 59. The 58.6 I didn’t have any pressure signs but not happy with the ES.
  19. J

    6.5 PRC Load Dev - Did annealing change pressure?

    @HGL I used a bushing to size neck back down and used expander mandrel to have .001 neck tension.
  20. J

    6.5 PRC Load Dev - Did annealing change pressure?

    @huntnful I would agree that I’m into pressure and I think you’re right and need to back down a grain see what happens. When I did a ladder test to find pressure I made it to 60.4 before I had hard bolt lift. I know that there are other signs that show pressure but I always take it to hard...
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