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    Climate change...deer numbers

    Which is what’s interesting. Loads and loads of cougars there. Most of them actually in Blacktail country. The variables are so hard to isolate. But mule deer are indeed in dire straights and whether or not it’s because of cougars it sure as hell wouldn’t hurt to reduce the pressure until we...
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    Climate change...deer numbers

    Well, yeah without the sun we’d be -455 degrees Fahrenheit. That doesn’t mean that other factors that control our climate are unimportant or are not hugely influential to the narrow window we have for survival. So yes the sun is a bigger part of the whole but previous mass extinctions were not...
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    Climate change...deer numbers

    North America is not the globe…. It’s global warming, not jjohnsonElknewbie’s backyards warming during a winter. Average global temperatures are increasing. Globally last year was the hottest since we had records in 1850. Doesn’t mean every square mile will be hotter this year compared to...
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    Climate change...deer numbers

    I didn’t quite get that message the way you did. Definitely worth applying pressure though. This is making want to get out and hunt a cat that’s for sure. We have such a great opportunity with the mosaic in Oregons landscape the last couple years. We have areas that have had drought relief...
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    Climate change...deer numbers

    The Montreal Protocol of 1987 was the turning point for ozone and the 1991 US-Canada air quality agreement was the turning point for acid rain. Examples of doing something about a problem being successful. “Science by definition is unsettled”. In science in order for something to be accepted...
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    Climate change...deer numbers

    No you can’t except when looking at the affects of forage quality and availability seasonally. Also, not being able to isolate the effects from those other issues from each other isn’t an argument to ignore or discount those other issues. There is an interesting documentary out there regarding...
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    Climate change...deer numbers

    As humans as a whole species? Sure. But the migration crisis etc…. Will be devastating to civilization as a whole. The rate of change is what’s unique. Not likely regarding mule deer or most wildlife. Some will benefit but rapid change is hard on any animal who is even somewhat specialized...
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    Climate change...deer numbers

    The forage quality statistics during nursing from this were the most alarming part. Forgive the audio at the start. It gets improved quickly. Also, yes, I suck at talking to a computer screen.
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    Climate change...deer numbers

    Want another one? I mean the volcano thing came exclusively from social media. That’s been it’s only source so I can think of one at least less trustworthy. Also, the source links sources and studies. If you want you can look there.
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    Climate change...deer numbers

    People don’t remember shit. Lol we could stop a meteor strike and everyone would be protesting the expense of stopping the next one because it didn’t happen last time!! Survivor bias.
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    Climate change...deer numbers

    Oh, I hear you there. The messaging has been awful. I’ve talked to experts and people a hell of a lot smarter than me and asked why they message it this way. The answer is usually just “people don’t get the science and don’t care about it if they do. They understand storms and severe...
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    Climate change...deer numbers

    Actually, the volcano thing is a myth. It’s shared on Facebook lots but is verified false. We actually dwarf volcanoes in CO2 emissions. We kick their asses. Also, keep in mind that we do what we do AND the volcano. So even if it was equal, which it’s not, it’s another whole volcano...
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    Climate change...deer numbers

    Yup, a whole lotta bad luck happening in a whole lot of areas. Like the entire globe…
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    Climate change...deer numbers

    True. I hate when they do that. However, there are some things you can be very sure about. That we convert solid carbon sources locked away into a gas. That gas absorbs and radiates thermal radiation. That gas decreases the pH of water. When you increase the quantity of heat radiating and...
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    Climate change...deer numbers

    Also, as someone who loves mule deer and has spent my life time pursuing them my biggest fear is that they’re simply right. That the changes in forage quality, drought, sporadic winters, etc.. are the cause of the steady decline. I want it to be predators, cars, or whatever cause is eventually...
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    Climate change...deer numbers

    Exactly. It drives me nuts how people can’t understand that any human caused affects are in addition to whatever natural cycles and occurrences there are. Climate cycles change naturally. Absolutely. Add to that human caused changes and you add severity, frequency, and rate of change. Natural...
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    6mm vs 25 Caliber

    It’s worth considering if you have a 6.5 already. .264-.257=.007. There just is not enough difference between the two to make it worth the extra effort of a quarter bore. With a 6mm you’re covering a wider range if you have a 6.5,7, or 30 cal. This is coming from someone whose spent a lot of...
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    6mm vs 25 Caliber

    Man, I have the worst timing. I built a fast twist 1:8 25-06 about 6 years ago. Just before the faster and flatter 6.5 calibers came out. Back then there was almost nothing for high bc 25 cal bullets. I did it to shoot the 121 hammers but holy shit is the bc terrible on the 121 .257 hammers...
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    Climate change...deer numbers

    We killed one this last spring. Dumb luck bear hunting on the coast. I know ODFW does workshops on cougar and bear hunting from time to time. I tried to make a play on one this fall in the Owyhee, it was hunting pronghorn interestingly enough. It vanished surprise surprise.
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    Climate change...deer numbers

    I think it’s something they can’t do much about their hands are tied. I’ve talked to them and when it comes to landowner damage tags and predators they say it’s a legislative problem. Also, pre 2016 cougar numbers were about where they are now and mule deer were doing okayish. Much better...

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