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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    But you can sell them to every hunter on earth.
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Why don't they come out and make it public? Surely, they aren't adverse to an exponential increase in sales and profit. Hell, they could probably just make that one bullet and do record levels of business.
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Felt recoil is also a pretty subjective thing. I killed elk and deer in earlier times with .300 and .338 WM's before I came to my senses. These days I wonder if .30-06 and .308 are even necessary. The advent of the CM and PRC cartridges might drive my personal threshold even lower.
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    As long as this discussion has gone along, surely Sierra and other ammo companies have become aware of it. It seems strange to me Sierra hasn't done their own testing and evaluation and come out with a recommendation. Honestly, a .22 bullet proven and backed to reliably take most big game...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    I don't consider standard calibers .30-06 and below "big boomers." I think it goes far beyond reading between the lines to extrapolate any recommendation for use on deer from what Sierra wrote.
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    I didn't mean fringe of capability, but rather on the fringe of usual hunting bullet weight. You can take my as condescending if you like, but it was simply a statement that viewpoints, even those that are valid, change.
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    I have been skeptical in the past, but I didn't post in this thread they don't work, or that you shouldn't use them, did I? I just prefer a different approach. If we are both standing over dead animals, your approach isn't "better" just because you like it more. In fact, my initial post in...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Military ammo isn't necessarily designed to kill. In fact, even the wounding capability of military ammo is limited by international agreement.
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Sierra must be a bunch of dumbasses, too. This is what the manufacturer has to say: jj, if you want make this personal with name calling and profanity, I'm all in.
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    It means the only terminal effect for which it was designed is punching holes in paper.
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    The TMK is a target bullet and relatively small in comparison to more "standard" hunting bullets, no?
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Like I said, I'm not mad if you want to use it. But don't act like you are something special; things that didn't work never stayed around long. Dead animals are also evidence and have been the measurement of a cartridge since we started shooting at animals. And yes, at some point your views...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    It's on the smallest edge of bullet weight and being used for a purpose for which it isn't intended, but I'm not mad if you want to use it just as I don't care if you are mad that I don't. The point I made in my first post in this thread is at some time in the future another generation will...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    I've killed many deer with .243, .25-06, .270, and .30-06 all with Remington Core Lokts and Winchester Power Points, and a moose with .30-06 loaded with 180 grain partitions. Though I didn't keep detailed notes, all performed fine. The only real stand out was that each and every deer shot with...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    I don't disagree with the premise, but I didn't take chambering to necessarily mean the same velocity. Two 140 grain bullets of the same chambering could certainly be loaded to different velocities.
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    I'm aware of what has happened more than five years ago, and my metric is those cartridges kill everything without being on the fringe of bullet performance. You are a man (I assume) of true insight. I just made an impulse purchase of a Model 70 Featherweight in .270 Win.
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    What do you mean that wasn't the argument? Didn't someone post "Wind drift in any given chambering is determined by BC- full stop."
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Could be. Just strikes me as the opposite side of the big magnum coin. Both work, but the best spot is somewhere in the middle.
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Now show two bullets of the same BC driven at different velocities. Think the drift will be the same?
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    There will be a different train along in a little while.

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