TIL that when a hunt is expensive, it makes the animal harder to kill. Cheap critters die easier. Also, why the quotations around “ shot placement”? Do you not worry about “shot placement” with a .300?
Whats your point? Even if the 77 tmk was literally the only .224 bullet that would kill big game, everything else “grenaded” on a deers scapula, who cares? Why do you care that a specic bullet works so well?
Nobody advocating for smaller calibers has said that bullet design doesn’t matter. The exact opposite is what’s being taught, the very first line in the first post of the 223 thread say “bullets matter more than headstamps”, and then there is a several hundred page thread proving it.
IMO, if you are shooting at long enough range to actually have to hold for very much wind drift, it’s nice to know exactly how many mils to hold. I’m already bad at estimating wind speed, I don’t want to estimate how far to hold for my estimated wind. YMMV
Here’s another vote for the 3-15 swfa. The ffp version is available on their website, if you’d rather have a second focal plane just keep an eye on the classifieds here. They pop up fairly often.
A 55 gr soft is still adequate, but a 77 tmk is optimal. I loaded some hornady 55 SPs last winter out of curiosity, shot around a dozen hogs with em. They work great, you just dont have the range you get with a higher bc tmk or eldm.
That’s what made me buy a .243 several years ago. I realized that gun writers will have an article one month about needing a 180 grain .30 cal minimum for elk, and then the very next month might have a write up about what a great cartridge the .243 is for a youth rifle, hunting the same species...
Thanks for the reply! You’ve got the wheels in my head turning now… I’ll have to see what I come up with. I love how your stocks have turned out, but I’m not that ambitious!
The 223 with good bullets has been proven time and again to be a reliable killer out to 400 to 450 yards. Most hunters will never shoot an animal at that range, and a lot won’t even get to 200. So yeah, for probably a solid 90% of hunters it is all that’s needed. Nobody has said it’s the only...
Second this, they work great on jackrabbits. Kill quite a bit faster than a standard lead rn. The only testing I’ve done other than bunnys was a soda can full of water at 50 yards, there was three holes in about a one inch group on the backside, so it seems they come apart as advertised.
That’s why I said I wasn’t sure on the numbers. My point was, even IF a biger bullet created twice as wide of a wound channel, it’s still not as much margin as people seem to think. And as you said, a bullet that did so would be too destructive for hunting critters that you plan on eating.
All else being equal, a bigger bullet that is the same design as a smaller bullet will do more damage, and give you a bigger margin for error. But I don’t believe its nearly as much as guys seem to think. If an 88 grain bullet produces a four inch diameter wound, and a 190 bullet makes an eight...