Zen bivy vs western mtn versalite

[Coopsdaddy]

I got a zenbivy ultralight 10 degree (goose) a couple months ago and have put a couple weeks on it so far. It’s without question the most comfortable sleeping system I’ve ever used, but needs to be paired with a good pad - I’ve been using the xtherm nxt max. The first night I had it on a neoloft at 30 degrees and got a little cold.. switched to the xtherm and it’s been a lot more comfortable. Coldest I’ve had it to was 25 degrees and I definitely needed my SG puffies to stay comfortable. I find the claims that it’ll be comfortable much lower than that hard to believe, but maybe I’m just a pussy.. That being said, I’d rather sleep in this system than go back to any sleeping bag so I’ll bring a lightweight FF blanket to help when the temps look like they’ll be much colder.

Pretty bad for a 10 degree.You need puffys at 25 in a 10 degree bag.
I realize some sleep hot and some sleep cold but that’s a big difference.
Not sure why these companies can’t have a standard.
Like sleeping with underwear and bra only.
They all measure at different metrics to fudge the weights and pack size.
No way I would pay that for a 10 degree to have to bring along a blanket.
I want a Zen bivy because of all the praise but will definitely have to chat with them on temps.

 

[NICKJ]

I used a 10 degree Zenbivy in Colorado last year with no problems. Camped at 11k and temps got into low teens and was fine. No extra puffy or clothes needed.

 

[AK_cowboy]

I got a zenbivy ultralight 10 degree (goose) a couple months ago and have put a couple weeks on it so far. It’s without question the most comfortable sleeping system I’ve ever used, but needs to be paired with a good pad - I’ve been using the xtherm nxt max. The first night I had it on a neoloft at 30 degrees and got a little cold.. switched to the xtherm and it’s been a lot more comfortable. Coldest I’ve had it to was 25 degrees and I definitely needed my SG puffies to stay comfortable. I find the claims that it’ll be comfortable much lower than that hard to believe, but maybe I’m just a pussy.. That being said, I’d rather sleep in this system than go back to any sleeping bag so I’ll bring a lightweight FF blanket to help when the temps look like they’ll be much colder.

Hey man as the 25” sheet able to also fit your neoloft? I just know the wide Neoloft is 26” wide

 

[Elkangle]

The wide range of experiences cant all just be because some people are warm and cold blooded....zen bivy has a few variables...theres old and new models with potential growing pains and quality control ? light bed vs new ultra light bed... theres the obvious r rating of the matress people are using but also the shape ? Maybe a mummy cut pad doesnt work as well on a square cut sheet ? Are some people hood users while others are not ? I know using a hood is my last resort of staying warm in a bag

but everyone enjoys the increase comfort of zen bivy

With WM bags nobody complains about temp raiting but often complain about the comfort and small cut of a few of the lines..WM makes a very quality product

Curiousity is gona win this battle, worst case you guys will see a zen bivy for sale in the classifieds

 

[Coopsdaddy]

The wide range of experiences cant all just be because some people are warm and cold blooded....zen bivy has a few variables...theres old and new models with potential growing pains and quality control ? light bed vs new ultra light bed... theres the obvious r rating of the matress people are using but also the shape ? Maybe a mummy cut pad doesnt work as well on a square cut sheet ? Are some people hood users while others are not ? I know using a hood is my last resort of staying warm in a bag

but everyone enjoys the increase comfort of zen bivy

With WM bags nobody complains about temp raiting but often complain about the comfort and small cut of a few of the lines..WM makes a very quality product

Curiousity is gona win this battle, worst case you guys will see a zen bivy for sale in the classifieds

Same,I just sleep so bad it’s worth the try.
Im waiting on the next big sale,November probably and getting there lightest model in 10 degree.

 

[skierjt]

Hey man as the 25” sheet able to also fit your neoloft? I just know the wide Neoloft is 26” wide

Yup! Works great on the neoloft, super comfortable setup. Just not quite as warm as the xtherm.