Wyoming Elk General Tag vs LQ Tag

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Food for thought for anyone planning a Wyoming elk strategy for 2026 and beyond.

In last year’s regular draw, it took roughly 5.5 preference points to draw a Wyoming general elk tag in the South or West regions. That is about two full points higher than in 2021.

As most of us already know, more and more hunters are buying preference points with the goal of hunting Wyoming someday. Last year alone, over 39,000 people purchased their first elk preference point, and there are now more than 200,000 people holding Wyoming elk points in the system.

With that many people in the pool, it is safe to assume that point requirements will continue to increase. From 2021 through last year, the general tag crept by roughly half a point per year. If that trend continues, it would take around 12 points to draw a general tag by 2038. That also happens to be about the same year someone who uses their points now could realistically expect to have built enough points to draw a general tag again.

Applying in the special draw can get you into the field sooner, but that draw is experiencing point creep as well. It should be expected that wait times there will continue to grow.

Limited-quota (LQ) tags are also seeing steady point creep. Some areas are jumping by a full point per year, which is quickly putting them out of reach for most nonresidents. There are still good LQ areas that are increasing more slowly, and those tags can be realistic options for hunters sitting in the middle of the point pool—if they choose not to burn their points on a general tag.

For example, if someone with six points uses them on a general tag this year, they will likely be 20+ years away from having enough points to draw most LQ units in Wyoming, with many units becoming completely unattainable in their lifetime.

For many hunters, the chance to hunt elk a few times in general units is better than waiting for one great limited-quota tag. That is completely understandable. However, a lot of people still believe they will be able to hunt Wyoming every five or six years as nonresidents. Realistically, that is no longer the case.

A nonresident starting at age 20 might expect to draw a general tag only five or six times in their life, and a limited-quota tag perhaps two or maybe three times.

The bottom line is that hunters who use their points now and still hope to draw a quality limited-quota tag in the future are likely setting themselves back 20–30 years.

Choose wisely what tag to apply for and when you finally draw a Wyoming elk tag—general or limited—make the most of it.
 
Lots of food for thought. 39,000 people bought their first point. If 7500 of those were people who drew licenses last year (less because some bail out) and were just stepping to the back of the line that means 31,500 people were new to applying. A massive number of new applicants getting in line. Those who draw this year and take a number behind those 39,000 people who are 1 point up on them will be counting on the random draw for awhile. Those odds are about to plummet. Not to bright of a future.

Just the other day talking to the Mrs I said I never thought I’d see the day when I was praying to draw a cow tag with only 50% odds. It wasn’t that long ago when we were drawing general license as a 2nd choice after gaining a point for not drawing our first choice tag in a LQ area. That conversation ended with “I guess it’s about time to retire sell the house and buy a shack in western Wyoming” That’s the only cure for point creep.
 
Those aren't all new applicants, it's just a tally of the nr with 1 point in the Elk column of the database.
The one bit of info I don't look at is that total points graphic, it's a point of NR angst that has little benefit. Those apps are where the creep comes from when they finally apply, but being cognizant of actual applicants that apply year/year for the hunts you're interested in will provide a better picture of where you are in my opinion.
 
Those aren't all new applicants, it's just a tally of the nr with 1 point in the Elk column of the database.
The one bit of info I don't look at is that total points graphic, it's a point of NR angst that has little benefit. Those apps are where the creep comes from when they finally apply, but being cognizant of actual applicants that apply year/year for the hunts you're interested in will provide a better picture of where you are in my opinion.
Agree. My points are reflected on there and I am not even applying this year since my son has a very good chance to draw a LQ tag. I wanted to focus on him this year.
 
I have only ever paid attention to the odds and how they’ve trended for the past 3-5 years.
Generally that is what I do but I think it is worth paying attention to the total number of point holders as states make changes that will force many of the point holders in one direction or the other. We have a lot of guys on the sidelines right now.... just like Moose and Sheep was just a few years ago. Cow moose tags could be had for just a point or two but now they take 20 points because guys are bailing out of the broken system. Exact same could happen with general or lower point LQ tags if Wyoming drops to 10% allocation.
 
You should have waited until after the deadline to try and encourage everyone to apply. If I dont get a tag again I am blaming you. 🙂
On the contrary - I think many people should pump the brakes and evaluate their strategy because they will likely never be in the same position again in their lifetime. Right now a person with 6 points only has about 25,000 people in front of them. Burn those points and jump back in there will be over 200,000 people in front of them. Looking at it a different way, those 6 points are worth 12+ in future terms.
 
I'm going to guess that less than 10% of the first point purchasers at this time have any clue about what they bought or how their chances for a tag will be affected next year or in 5 years. They read this from the WGF website and buy the point:
"Preference points are a way to improve your odds of eventually drawing a license in a hard-to-draw hunt area." (I believe they only recently added the word eventually.)
 
Generally that is what I do but I think it is worth paying attention to the total number of point holders as states make changes that will force many of the point holders in one direction or the other. We have a lot of guys on the sidelines right now.... just like Moose and Sheep was just a few years ago. Cow moose tags could be had for just a point or two but now they take 20 points because guys are bailing out of the broken system. Exact same could happen with general or lower point LQ tags if Wyoming drops to 10% allocation.
That’s what’s about to happen in Colorado… I think. When your points are about to become nearly worthless what do you do? Burn em!
 
I burnt my 15 points this past year and am starting over. If Wyoming decides to allocate less tags to non residents like they did with sheep/moose I’ll really be screwed! But I am joining a group and one of those guys has 6 points so hopefully we can get drawn in a handful of years for a region w, that’s the plan anyway. The stroke of a pen can change all that though!
 
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