Would you buy this scope?

[The Guide]

This is an artifact of converting from MIL design to MOA. The inverse would equally prove your point the opposite way.

Did the funny bone get fragmented around here? I'm pretty sure the comment @Dobermann made was a tongue in cheek joke. I use both Mils and MOA. I no longer try and buy MOA scopes but when was the last time you saw a basic duplex that had MIL/MIL adjustment? I shoot with a lot of people who only know MOA. When shooting MOA guns and giving them MOA calls, there is a lot more uncertainty on what to dial than there is using MIL scopes and using MIL calls. There is more feedback asking to repeat the call especially if you dont do the rounding for them. I haven't seen a ballistic calculator that gives calls to the .25 MOA. It is always to the 0.1 MOA and that messes with people's minds. I have found that a lot of people suck at rounding. Up 12.7 MOA vs up 3.7 MIL is troublesome for some people. Most people just don't practice enough at long distances to be efficient and competent regardless of the measurement of angle that they use.

Jay

 

[ckt3]

Did the funny bone get fragmented around here? I'm pretty sure the comment @Dobermann made was a tongue in cheek joke. I use both Mils and MOA. I no longer try and buy MOA scopes but when was the last time you saw a basic duplex that had MIL/MIL adjustment? I shoot with a lot of people who only know MOA. When shooting MOA guns and giving them MOA calls, there is a lot more uncertainty on what to dial than there is using MIL scopes and using MIL calls. There is more feedback asking to repeat the call especially if you dont do the rounding for them. I haven't seen a ballistic calculator that gives calls to the .25 MOA. It is always to the 0.1 MOA and that messes with people's minds. I have found that a lot of people suck at rounding. Up 12.7 MOA vs up 3.7 MIL is troublesome for some people. Most people just don't practice enough at long distances to be efficient and competent regardless of the measurement of angle that they use.

Jay

To be honest, I thought this was the other thread for this scope, which is now on its 10th page of a MOA vs mil debate, so I thought the comment above was an earnest critique. I’ve only ever used mil and don’t really care but figured I’d point it out.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I haven't seen a ballistic calculator that gives calls to the .25 MOA. It is always to the 0.1 MOA and that messes with people's minds.
Jay

I almost never look at my Shooter app for my MOA scopes because I never dial them, never shoot them at more than 100 yards, and give them out as loaner rifles. I was mind blown when you pointed this out and i had to go check it.

That’s pretty wild. Quite the oversight in Shooter.

 

[BLJ]

Chairgun is like that.
And if so remember correctly StreLok as well.

4 is 5
8 is 7
3 is 2
1 is 0
9 could also be 0. Depending.

It’s really pretty simple.

 

[HuntHarder]

AB will round to the nearest 1/4moa or .1mil. Choose "Round" vs. "Precise." Just realized my screenshot included my volume bar. "Round" is behind it in the "Hold precision" tab.

 

[Dobermann]

You have way too much time on your hands.

That was @Frozenlead's image, not mine. I just posted it in-line rather than an attachment for those who hadn't clicked on it to see its brilliance ...

 

[Frozenlead]

I figured I’d throw it out there for a laugh since someone beat me to the Mil subtensions. Should have read the other thread first and seen how fast people get spooled up.
For the record I have a mixture of Mil/ MOA, but could really care less what the measurement is if I like the scope and reticle.

 

[Bluumoon]

MInox THLR just showed up. If this scope reticle matches up (as it appears to) I’m immediately struck by how fast my eye centers to POA compared to SWFA/Maven RS 1.2.