WIDE FEET, SORE FEET ANYONE?!

[chindits]

All the wide toe box shoes I have used seem to provide ample room on the big toe side of the shoe, but not so much on the small toe side of the shoe. This has been my experience with even wide toe box reputed trail running shoes such as topo and zero shoes. I know I have flat feet, but at 60 years old I don’t think that’s changing.
On the boot side of the house I have used crispi, zamberlan and lowa, but none of them seem to have been as accommodating as my old issued Belleville’s.

 

[Lathrop and Sons Boots]

All the wide toe box shoes I have used seem to provide ample room on the big toe side of the shoe, but not so much on the small toe side of the shoe. This has been my experience with even wide toe box reputed trail running shoes such as topo and zero shoes. I know I have flat feet, but at 60 years old I don’t think that’s changing.
On the boot side of the house I have used crispi, zamberlan and lowa, but none of them seem to have been as accommodating as my old issued Belleville’s.
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This could be because of the foot you have or even the size that you are selecting. I'm going to send you a DM.

 

[jrock_jeep]

I have a set of your mountain hunters in 13 superwide, do they need a break in period? I find them a bit tight, and the Lowa wides to be just as "wide", the Lowa's are a 14w.

 

[Lathrop and Sons Boots]

I have a set of your mountain hunters in 13 superwide, do they need a break in period? I find them a bit tight, and the Lowa wides to be just as "wide", the Lowa's are a 14w.

I sent you a DM to help!!

 

[NDHUNTER24]

Whats the main issue for blisters on the heel? I wear keen work boots that have never given my feet any issues. I bought a pair of crispi lapponia III, while comfy at the local store, they reck my heels on any trip over 2 miles unless i tape them. I will say feet sweat all the time and i haven't really found a sock that works really good.

 

[Lathrop and Sons Boots]

Whats the main issue for blisters on the heel? I wear keen work boots that have never given my feet any issues. I bought a pair of crispi lapponia III, while comfy at the local store, they reck my heels on any trip over 2 miles unless i tape them. I will say feet sweat all the time and i haven't really found a sock that works really good.

Great question!!!

I always say there's a reason why something is happening. This issue, in a lot of cases, is a combination of those reasons. Contributing factors: Wrong boot for the foot/anatomy, Incorrect sizing, Irregularity of Calcanus/heel bone, causes mom and dad i.e.. Hereditary. or prolong wearing of the wrong heel height in a boot or shoe.

As you can see it can be a lot. I'm going to shoot you a DM and if you want to dive into your reason more we can...

 

[jpmulk]

Please make an American made, high quality, durable, leather, zero drop barefoot style hunting boot. No more foot casts please. They suck.

This!

 

[sneek-ee]

Please make an American made, high quality, durable, leather, zero drop barefoot style hunting boot. No more foot casts please. They suck.

As others have already mentioned, this is the main desire lacking in the hunting and hiking market, but big boot mfrs refuse go go away from the norm and make it. Notice Lathrop will not acknowledge it or reply or take a stance on their foot casts compared to what is healthy for human feet.

If a company would make something to compare with the vivos, we'd all be much happier and it'd push the market to expand and do better.

 

[HighUintas]

As others have already mentioned, this is the main desire lacking in the hunting and hiking market, but big boot mfrs refuse go go away from the norm and make it. Notice Lathrop will not acknowledge it or reply or take a stance on their foot casts compared to what is healthy for human feet.

If a company would make something to compare with the vivos, we'd all be much happier and it'd push the market to expand and do better.

100% agree

 

[Lathrop and Sons Boots]

As others have already mentioned, this is the main desire lacking in the hunting and hiking market, but big boot mfrs refuse go go away from the norm and make it. Notice Lathrop will not acknowledge it or reply or take a stance on their foot casts compared to what is healthy for human feet.

If a company would make something to compare with the vivos, we'd all be much happier and it'd push the market to expand and do better.

We researched having boots made in the United States but came up short. We elected to have our brand made in Italy, this is where a lot of great backpacking /mountaineering boots are made.

Zero Drop? This is a subject that some people are into and others are not. We spent our life working in the footcare industry helping people with biomechanical issues. Our position, if you are having issues getting through a normal gait which is creating pain, then using a Zero Drop foundation is going to prolong spring off the front hindering the healing process. While living in a concrete world that we live in, why run the risk of causing another issue. It's nothing more that prevention!!!!

If you would like to discuss this opinion more give us a call... We'd be happy to spend time discussing this with you over the phone.

 

[jpmulk]

We researched having boots made in the United States but came up short. We elected to have our brand made in Italy, this is where a lot of great backpacking /mountaineering boots are made.

Zero Drop? This is a subject that some people are into and others are not. We spent our life working in the footcare industry helping people with biomechanical issues. Our position, if you are having issues getting through a normal gait which is creating pain, then using a Zero Drop foundation is going to prolong spring off the front hindering the healing process. While living in a concrete world that we live in, why run the risk of causing another issue. It's nothing more that prevention!!!!

If you would like to discuss this opinion more give us a call... We'd be happy to spend time discussing this with you over the phone.

There is a lot of opinions out there on this subject. My story is that I never had foot problems when I ran minimalist and flexible footwear for years. This included all my time in the military rucking on and off pavement and elk hunting in mountains. Fast forward to two years ago and I decided I’d try out a modern stiff shanked hunting boot. I bought two different pairs. Took me a year to recover from the plantar fasciitis. I initially tried following all of the professional advice of use this insole or that shoe. But nothing worked until I did the opposite of what the pros were telling me and I switched back to a zero drop flexible boot/shoe. I know this story is similar for many others.

Not saying your opinion or experience is wrong. It’s definitely not a one size fits all issue. Just saying this is still a needed niche to be filled for many like me!

 

[Lathrop and Sons Boots]

There is a lot of opinions out there on this subject. My story is that I never had foot problems when I ran minimalist and flexible footwear for years. This included all my time in the military rucking on and off pavement and elk hunting in mountains. Fast forward to two years ago and I decided I’d try out a modern stiff shanked hunting boot. I bought two different pairs. Took me a year to recover from the plantar fasciitis. I initially tried following all of the professional advice of use this insole or that shoe. But nothing worked until I did the opposite of what the pros were telling me and I switched back to a zero drop flexible boot/shoe. I know this story is similar for many others.

Not saying your opinion or experience is wrong. It’s definitely not a one size fits all issue. Just saying this is still a needed niche to be filled for many like me!

You're correct, there is a lot opinions on the subject. My perspective is of taking care of the problem once the problem has developed. The conversations that I have on a given day confirms my opinion.

There's a ton of reasons why someone starts to develop heel pain, the scenarios are endless.

As for the future in foot gear and trends, who knows...

 

[HighUintas]

While zero drop and barefoot style boots may be a small market segment, it is definitely big enough to support launching a quality product. The only options available are either poor quality and not made to hold up long term, or they are not designed for use in rugged mountain terrain.

I could almost guarantee that the majority of biomechanical issues are due to people being out of shape, unhealthy , and/or a lifetime of wearing foot casts which causes poor alignment, weak lower leg/foot muscles, as and poor mechanics.

 

[jpmulk]

While zero drop and barefoot style boots may be a small market segment, it is definitely big enough to support launching a quality product. The only options available are either poor quality and not made to hold up long term, or they are not designed for use in rugged mountain terrain.

I could almost guarantee that the majority of biomechanical issues are due to people being out of shape, unhealthy , and/or a lifetime of wearing foot casts which causes poor alignment, weak lower leg/foot muscles, as and poor mechanics.

Completely agree. People walked barefoot style for thousands of years. A lot of Americans have foot problems. Could it be from wearing casts all the time? I think so. “Supportive” footwear weakens you. Think about what happens to your tendons, ligaments, and muscle when you wear a cast after breaking a bone. They weaken and shrink.

I did read one study that I would have to find again that showed lack of foot issues in barefoot cultures around the world. Was pretty interesting.

 

[HighUintas]

Completely agree. People walked barefoot style for thousands of years. A lot of Americans have foot problems. Could it be from wearing casts all the time? I think so. “Supportive” footwear weakens you. Think about what happens to your tendons, ligaments, and muscle when you wear a cast after breaking a bone. They weaken and shrink.

I did read one study that I would have to find again that showed lack of foot issues in barefoot cultures around the world. Was pretty interesting.

I ran XC in jr high and high school and was plagued with knee issues. They treated the symptoms with orthotics. It was a little better, but didn't really fix it. I had to stay on top of replacing shoes and the orthotics.

Later after college when I got back into running, I switched to minimalist shoes and worked on strengthening my feet and lower legs. No more knee problems running.

Now, at 38, I can run 60+ mile weeks with minimalist shoes and zero problems and have been doing so since about 23 years old. I use the same crappy pair of minimal shoes until they literally start falling apart and need to be replaced due to the upper having giant holes or the tread being completely worn off. The midsole foam and support (actually lack of because it had non to begin with) don't matter one but in this regard.