White muzzleloader users

[sportsmans challenge]

Last year I was given a White muzzleloader '95 elk foundation Bison model in .54 caliber

Been doing some research and had seen doc white passed away August 2022.

Was looking for any advice or experience with these rifles, I have located some of their conical bullets that were made for the barrels they did and will be getting them coming soon. Unsure of powders to use as well as patch or no. I have not shot the rifle at all, but looks very clean and either rarely was ever shot or was well taken care of.


Thanks in advance for any info.

 

[sportsmans challenge]

I did just find this, Google worked better than the on-site search

White Muzzleloaders

Anyone still shooting the White muzzleloaders? I"ve collected a few over the years. The bummer here in Mich you can now use any legal firearm during muzzy season. I haven"t had my Whites out in awhile.

rokslide.com

 

[ElDiablito]

Lots of White shooters and collectors over on ModernMuzzleloder that could answer any question you may have. I’ve got six myself.

I’d shoot 777 powder with #11 caps and recommend trying Bull Shop or No Excuses bullets.

Marlowe Richards assumed all of the remaining White parts and can be reached through the White Muzzleloading site.

White Muzzle Loading – info, FAQs, sales White brand muzzleloaders

 

[sportsmans challenge]

Just got off the phone with Marlow about an hour ago and bought the last of the .539 cal bullets he had(only 2 boxes) and got to pick his brain a bit. Will wait for these bullets to get here and see about getting out and playing with some charges and see how it does. He had mentioned these rifles or bullets were made to shoot well with the white made bullet, no wad, with pyrodex p. Obviously other powders out there, but will try some of that 1st then maybe explore other powders.

Sound slike he plans to start producing the bullets again in the near future.

 

[ptpalpha]

I've been hunting with a White 98+ (209 Thunderbolt converted to #11's) for many years. It's a .451 cal, and it's favorite load is 96 grains of Pyrodex P under a 460 grain No Excuses conical. Accurate and deadly.
If you can find a copy of Doc's book The White Muzzleloading System it'll give you a lot of solid information.
Whites are the finest front loaders for whitetail hunting that I've ever used.

 

[Del Gue]

I have the Bison in .54 cal as well. I could not find a more accurate shooter. I shoot the No Excuses 525 grain conicals pushed by 85 grains of Swiss black powder with a wool wad. I fatten my conicals up a little bit by knurling the between two files. Helps grab the rifling a little better.

 

[sportsmans challenge]

If I could find a book I would grab it....... if anyone has a lead

 

[ElDiablito]

If I could find a book I would grab it....... if anyone has a lead

You’re in luck - it’s available digitally on the website.

The White Muzzleloading System – White Muzzle Loading

 

[sportsmans challenge]

You’re in luck - it’s available digitally on the website.

The White Muzzleloading System – White Muzzle Loading

Thanks, I did a search and it took me to something else on the page and other stuff online, but not that

 

[dietridg]

Best Loads – White Muzzle Loading

Also on website. Preferred loads for different guns. I shoot .54 525 grains over 120 grains. Its consistent but have issues with the Williams peep not having enough adjustability.

 

[COLOelkman]

I'd highly recommend also using a Lyman 57 SMET or SME if you can find one as it really helps most people with achieving better accuracy.

 

[remdem]

I recieved a very clean 54 caliber white bison rockey mountain elk foundation back in 2020. I contacted Doc and he told me they donated about 25 muzzleloaders to the rockey mountain elk foundation and only a few were 54 caliber. He said its a rare muzzleloader. I'd be interested in knowing how many were 54 caliber. I still have his email.

 

[sportsmans challenge]

I have one, dated 1995. That may not help a lot for getting #'s

 

[sportsmans challenge]

I'd highly recommend also using a Lyman 57 SMET or SME if you can find one as it really helps most people with achieving better accuracy.

Can you show where and how that's mounted. I don't see how it would mount to my rifle

 

[ElDiablito]

Can you show where and how that's mounted. I don't see how it would mount to my rifle

There should be two holes on the right side of the receiver that the Lyman 57 will screw into.

 

[sportsmans challenge]

There should be two holes on the right side of the receiver that the Lyman 57 will screw into.

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Thank you, I will take a look. I have seen some of the peeps available used.

 

[sportsmans challenge]

I may have to notch out the stock some.

 

[ElDiablito]

I may have to notch out the stock some.

Yes - easy to do.

 

[sportsmans challenge]

Got the peep mounted, need to seal the wood where I notched it out and waiting on my aperatures to show up for it.

Thanks for the help. Can't wait to try it with peeps