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[BluMtn]

Licensed Big Game Outfitter and Licensed Big Game Guide from Eastern Idaho Indicted for Violating the Lacey Act

POCATELLO – A federal grand jury sitting in Pocatello returned a six-count indictment on February 27, 2024, charging 52-year-old Jerrod Randall Farr and 67-year-old Michael Timothy Scott, both of Challis,

www.bigcountrynewsconnection.com

 

[TVW]

Dang, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

Wonder where they were guiding at?

How'd you like to be the client who was on those hunts and see this in the news?

 

[WeiserBucks]

Successful clients don't give a shit, that's why outfitters keep breaking laws.

 

[TVW]

Successful clients don't give a shit, that's why outfitters keep breaking laws.

Is a client just fully protected in instances like this?

 

[WeiserBucks]

I doubt it, hunters are responsible for for abiding by game laws outfitted or not.

 

[mike.adams.467]

I doubt it, hunters are responsible for for abiding by game laws outfitted or not.

They may have abided by all the game laws without realizing the outfitter/guide took them into an area he wasn't authorized to use.

 

[cuerro viejo]

Is a client just fully protected in instances like this?

Normally they turn states witness,

 

[WeiserBucks]

They may have abided by all the game laws without realizing the outfitter/guide took them into an area he wasn't authorized to use.

That goes straight back to the hunter abiding by all game laws.

 

[downthepipe]

I’m very surprised by this. I worked for one of them and have met the other numerous times. Both have a good reputation but the arrogance level was a bit high with one of them.

 

[idelkslayer]

That goes straight back to the hunter abiding by all game laws.

If the hunters tag was valid where they harvested the animal, and the season was open then the hunter would have done nothing wrong. Is it the hunter's responsibility to know the outfitters permitted boundary and make them stay in it?

Many outfitters areas include only part of game management unit.

 

[WeiserBucks]

If the hunters tag was valid where they harvested the animal, and the season was open then the hunter would have done nothing wrong. Is it the hunter's responsibility to know the outfitters permitted boundary and make them stay in it?

In that scenario I'd say the hunter has likely done nothing wrong.

 

[Idaboy]

Ban them for life from hunting and guiding, only stiffer penalties will make this go away. Ever read the annual minutes from FG commission? Every year some guide is pleading his/her case and getting re-instated and they often do. Judges can only do so much based on sentence guidelines. Legislation should not allocate tags or how game is managed, BUT they can make laws about penalties. Write your representative asking for more harsh penalties.

 

[westernarcher]

Any update? They were supposed to have a court appearance today.

 

[Idaboy]

Any update? They were supposed to have a court appearance today.

Haven't heard, following, this article lays out the indictment in detail

2 Challis men indicted for big game hunt violations

Two Challis men were indicted Feb. 27 by a federal grand jury for multiple alleged offenses related to guided commercial big game hunts.

www.postregister.com

 

[sneaky]

You can look up their court info on the idaho courts website. You just pick the county and give the last name of the defendant and you can pull up the info on what is going on with the case

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[TheTone]

Ban them for life from hunting and guiding, only stiffer penalties will make this go away. Ever read the annual minutes from FG commission? Every year some guide is pleading his/her case and getting re-instated and they often do. Judges can only do so much based on sentence guidelines. Legislation should not allocate tags or how game is managed, BUT they can make laws about penalties. Write your representative asking for more harsh penalties.

I’m guessing you mean the outfitter and guide license board and not the FG commission minutes. IDFG doesn’t license or permit outfitting

 

[Idaboy]

Yes FG commission minutes

 

[mike.adams.467]

You can look up their court info on the idaho courts website. You just pick the county and give the last name of the defendant and you can pull up the info on what is going on with the case

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The only thing I could find was one citation for Farr related to disturbing the trap of another person. Maybe the Idaho repository doesn't capture information on federal cases?

 

[sneaky]

The only thing I could find was one citation for Farr related to disturbing the trap of another person. Maybe the Idaho repository doesn't capture information on federal cases?

They are trying the two defendants in separate counties, so not sure if it'll show up or not.

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[sneaky]

The only thing I could find was one citation for Farr related to disturbing the trap of another person. Maybe the Idaho repository doesn't capture information on federal cases?

USA v. Farr et al (4:24-cr-00061), Idaho District Court

USA v. Farr et al (4:24-cr-00061), Idaho District Court, Filed: 02/27/2024

www.pacermonitor.com

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