Which two bag system: 30 and 0 degree bags?

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Enlightened Equipment has a neat chart on their website on combining quilts/bags- I've used numerous combinations and their chart is very close to spot on based on my personal experience

Thanks for that. Nunatak used to have one when I first ordered their quilt. But it's no longer there and I couldnt remember the low.

Here's the link, if anyone else is interested.

 
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yup- that's the chart :)

one other advantage to this system as that on multi-day trips with just a down bag/quilt, the moisture from our body will start to degrade the loft of the down, with the Apex quilt over the top- the moisture continues to migrate through the down and settles into the outer layer and the Apex is much better at handling the additional moisture than down
 

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yup- that's the chart :)

one other advantage to this system as that on multi-day trips with just a down bag/quilt, the moisture from our body will start to degrade the loft of the down, with the Apex quilt over the top- the moisture continues to migrate through the down and settles into the outer layer and the Apex is much better at handling the additional moisture than down
Any recommendations on different quilts that you would use with a kuiu super down bag if the weather was to get down to 0? I have a 15 degree bag.
 

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Any recommendations on different quilts that you would use with a kuiu super down bag if the weather was to get down to 0? I have a 15 degree bag.


I prefer a synthetic quilt (Apex) for using as an over quilt- moisture moves outward and Apex handles moisture better than down, for temp ratings
a 50 degree quilt should get you to ~ -5F
a 40 degree quilt should get you to ~ -15
 

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That’s a huge improvement. I’ll take a look into the quilt game to potentially add that to the next backcountry hunt and try things out.
 

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Mountain Laurel Designs, Enlightened Equipment, Nunatak, others- all offer 40 and 50 degree Apex quilts

remember to get them slightly oversized for use an over quilt, if the over quilt is cut too small it can impact the full lofting of your down bag/quilt
 

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Not sure if anyone is looking, but there is a 38 degree Apex quilt in the Classifieds
 
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What about a high quality 30 degree bag? A couuple guys I know use the KUIU 30 degree bag and say its comfortable into low 20's. Seems pretty good for summer - october.
 

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What about a high quality 30 degree bag? A couuple guys I know use the KUIU 30 degree bag and say its comfortable into low 20's. Seems pretty good for summer - october.
I use a WM Caribiou 35 degree bag from the summer through early fall. I’ve used it down to around 22 and was fine with baselayers.
 
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