Which magnum rifle

[omicron1792]

I literally just asked for recommendations on suppressors. No one is talking about brakes or arguing about if they cause brain damage.
Now muzzle breaks are a totally different topic

I have 6 suppressors and currently have an AB raptor 8 with 5” reflex on my 6.5prc. It has been fantastic.

That said, I have a 6.5 zero from airlock ordered. They have upped the game imo and offer great suppression in a small package. I plan on using it on my 6.5prc and my AB raptor moving to my 375 full time.

 

[RockAndSage]

Not dumb. Ignorant. There's a difference. I agree that the data appears to support the position that muzzle brakes do contribute to brain damage, and I'm in the "no more brakes, probably ever" camp, but it's definitely not widely known or obvious that it definitely causes brain damage.

Also, it would be a good idea to spell "brake" correctly if you want to call out others' declining intelligence.

It's similar to hearing protection in general back around the mid 1980s and earlier - guys just didn't understand that permanent damage was occurring with every shot. "Kids, women, and sissies" would just spitball a little paper-towel bit or TP chunk, and put it in their ears "to keep shots from hurting". We've come a long way.

 

[naked wombats]

Would this be the first supressor for yall? If so, is it dedicated to this rifle, or will it be moved around to others?

If it's planned to be used on a variety of rifles, boltband gas, a boring but versatile, durable and proven, but slightly heavier option may be a good fit too. Omega, nomad, enticer, ptr vent1 etc.

 

[Dfou]

Would this be the first supressor for yall? If so, is it dedicated to this rifle, or will it be moved around to others?

If it's planned to be used on a variety of rifles, boltband gas, a boring but versatile, durable and proven, but slightly heavier option may be a good fit too. Omega, nomad, enticer, ptr vent1 etc.

Yes first one. Plan is for this one to be dedicated to this rifle and get a second I can swap between a 7-08 and 300wm

 

[43.6N]

Yes first one. Plan is for this one to be dedicated to this rifle and get a second I can swap between a 7-08 and 300wm

TBAC ultra 7 has pretty much been the gold standard for a few years when it comes to these recommendations. It’s a known quantity, generally regarded as a really good can, and used as a benchmark when other companies and people start comparisons. The company is well regarded, and has a solid track record of putting out a quality product and standing by their customers. Because of that popularity they can be hard to get sometimes.

I have a diligent defense enticer L-TI that I’ve been happy with as a large 30cal can.

 

[MThuntrrr]

I’ve been really happy with my thunder beast ultra 7

 

[KenLee]

I literally just asked for recommendations on suppressors. No one is talking about brakes or arguing about if they cause brain damage.
Now muzzle breaks are a totally different topic

Hell I use earplugs often 18 hrs a day. If I don’t have em in, its still "yell at my good ear". I'll hurt a feller if he gets close with a brake...or break.

 

[Sled]

TBAC ultra 7 has pretty much been the gold standard for a few years when it comes to these recommendations. It’s a known quantity, generally regarded as a really good can, and used as a benchmark when other companies and people start comparisons. The company is well regarded, and has a solid track record of putting out a quality product and standing by their customers. Because of that popularity they can be hard to get sometimes.

I have a diligent defense enticer L-TI that I’ve been happy with as a large 30cal can.

I've always heard this too but mine sits in the safe. I often use the nomad LT or my harvester 30 instead. Can't really say why other than the nomad is quieter with magnums and the harvester has a little more of a braked feel to it. I guess it just didn't impress me when I put it on my 270wsm at the time. Maybe they're better on smaller bore rifles?

I will pick up a UM suppressor if the tax stamp goes away.

 

[fwafwow]

Ive never known anyone that dosnt like brakes due to noise… only read about it…

I can not over emphasis this enough! The damage that your brain takes today from muzzle blasts is brain damage tomorrow.
If you are dumb enough to think that muzzle breaks don't equal brain damage, then I can't help you. Just know that with each loud noise/muzzle blast that you endure that you are losing IQ points.
-Doc

I read the entire thread and see that the OP and his son are looking at suppressors and have moved away from brakes. It's still a great time to teach him about the importance of hearing loss. (Sorry for more parenting advice.) Even if his rifle is suppressed, someone else's might not be, and his buddies might give him a hard time if they are shooting and he wants to wear ear pro. (I still see this today with grown a$$ men.)

I am one of many on here who is constantly hearing ringing in my ears (especially non-dominant side). I would give away lots of money to go back in time and tell myself to do things differently.

Also, as others have said, the risk is not limited to noise - the overpressure can effect you, especially shooting at an indoor range, or even with something next to or above you. This is one reason why I won't shoot anywhere near someone shooting a braked rifle, even with doubled-up ear pro. (I also have had a TBI, so I'm a bit gun shy on the issue.)

Anyone have any experience/reviews oh the NF SHV?

There is a review on here - review and Q&A. Although it was "only" 3-10x40, it might serve your son well. And if you want to buy that exact scope, the one that passed the tests, I will sell it to you for a discount. (I normally do not sell to FNGs, but can make an exception.) Owning that particular scope will give your son immediate RS cred.

 

[omicron1792]

I think recommending these 8-9” traditional cans is like recommending someone get a landline instead of a cellphone. Yes it works but dang there are better options.

 

[Pilsner]

Not dumb. Ignorant. There's a difference. I agree that the data appears to support the position that muzzle brakes do contribute to brain damage, and I'm in the "no more brakes, probably ever" camp, but it's definitely not widely known or obvious that it definitely causes brain damage.

Also, it would be a good idea to spell "brake" correctly if you want to call out others' declining intelligence.

Touche. Spell check got me on that one. I was also not replying to the OP but to others that suggested a brake instead of a can.
Also, you're pointing out of the difference between ignorance and being dumb is both correct and well founded. I am glad that you pointed out the difference because there IS a difference.
As a retired combat medic from the GWOT era I am following the ongoing thread of info more than others, I know for certain that some things like Carl Gustav recoilless rifles and 50 BMG's have definitely CAUSED brain damage in soldiers after repeated exposure, mostly due to their concussive forces - the same forces that are magnified by muzzle brakes. While I am not aware of current research asking if repeat exposure to rifles with brakes will have a causative effect on MTBI's and TBI's or not I am aware of a few studies that show if you already have an MTBI/TBI that exposure to muzzle brake concussive forces will make it worse. This tracks with my own experience and those of the army buddies that I currently teach firearm classes with who experience migraines after a half day on the firing line either instructing or being RSO's.
Either way the answer is the same - protect your hearing and protect your brain! A muzzle brake does neither and a can does both.
Thank you for keeping me in check info wise Eric1115.
-Doc

 

[fwafwow]

While I am not aware of current research asking if repeat exposure to rifles with brakes will have a causative effect on MTBI's and TBI's or not I am aware of a few studies that show if you already have an MTBI/TBI that exposure to muzzle brake concussive forces will make it worse.

This tracks with what I remember* from when I researched this some time ago.

* - Here's a side effect (at least to me) of a prior TBI - periodic questions I ask myself about my memory. Example - "Did I forget that guy's name because I suck at remembering names, or is this a result of my TBI?" So now I have to go back and see if I saved that research, or otherwise find it, and see if my current memory is accurate.