Which gear should I prioritize?

I have been on 5 day trips where it is in the 30s during the day, and teens at night. But the weather was good. I'm pretty comfortable with the temperature, but a winter storm could be problematic. I have a neoair xlite and ridgerest, and a 0F Enlightened Equipment Enigma which should keep me toasty. Not sure how it'll go, may have to change plans if the weather is looking bad. I might also go for the earlier archery OTC tags, just to get into the woods :) I'll be getting my pack here soon and doing some training with a large load. Right now I trail run and do some lifting to get in shape, but I know no amount of training will be enough, so I'm hitting it hard.
 
With the gear you have and the classifieds, your 2k will get you well on your way. I would shoot for archery, buy a used Kifaru, grab some Vortex glass and a tripod and keep training. Wait on the rifle until u build points and can draw a good unit...
Make sure you are training your eyes and using your glass in the weeks leading up to your hunt!
 
I like 1sign's idea. Use those classifieds to bolster your gear. I've upgraded a lot of gear from these classifieds and AT classifieds. I would spend the bulk of my money on things to make things more comfortable and safe. Pack, boots, socks, sleeping gear and spend whatever is left on a new scope.
 
After a few lessons last year, (my first year doing any sort of backcountry hunting) I've gladly spent a bucket of money on new boots, and a tipi/stove to help dry out. Not much more miserable than being 6+ miles from the truck with wet boots and weather coming in the first night.
Sounds like you are good to go with your rifle setup. As long as your consistent out a few hundred yards, I'd spend money somewhere else.
 
Wait on the rifle until u build points and can draw a good unit...

If he had the points, he'd be better off drawing the archery tag rather than the rifle tag. It would take less points, he'd get a full 30 day season, he'd be hunting in better weather (i.e. need less gear), and he'd have a better hunt.
 
So I like the idea of archery season because it's warmer and maybe better weather. I am going to be hunting my first bow season out east for whitetail this year as well, so there's a big learning curve. The problem is that I am almost definitely going to be hunting solo because I'll be new to CO and it may be tough for me to make new friends quickly. I am seriously concerned about meat spoilage in the warm weather. If I hunt 2nd season rifle, there's a better chance that it will be cool and I will have the time to pack out the meat before it goes bad. I'm still considering hunting both seasons, but I'd have to take some precautions for archery season, like caching the meat in a stream or something. I am trying to pick a unit near where I'll be living so that I have two months to scout it on the weekends and figure some of this out.

I've never considered a winter shelter before, but I am starting to look at the idea of hiking in a couple miles and building a basecamp. The Seek Outside Silvertip + Medium Ti Stove looks like a really nice setup. My guess is in the rain and snow, it would be a really nice thing to have, but if the weather is nice, I can get along just fine with my Notch. I have read more and more and seen that maybe backpacking and moving camp every night is too ambitious for my first year, and I can't get too far from the road anyway having to haul the meat on my own. So maybe a warmer, cozier shelter will help me stay out the whole season. Plus it's still light enough that I could pack it in a little or move it a couple times if need be.

Here's my gearlist so far, it doesn't include clothing and shelter and other camp items that I already own. I will post the whole list later for feedback. (and yes my budget is inflating already):

SG X-Curve w/ Sky 5900
Gun Sling + 2x Pockets
Leica Trinovid 10x42
Summit SS-P Tripod
Outdoorsmans MicroPan/Adapter/Stud
MG Gear Harness
SIG Kilo 850
Gerber Vital w/ blade bank
TAG Bags
Schnee's Beartooth / Lowa Tibet GTX (or equiv based on fit)
Igloo 100QT Coolor x2
OnX Maps + goHunt Insider
 
I've had less spoilage in archery than rifle. Why? It's definitely warm so we/I didn't get complacent about it. Temperature in Colorado can be anything during archery 1st, 2nd, 3rd rifle. Study up on meat care for all scenarios.

I hunted NW Colorado for years and there is no predicting the weather. Plan for mild, prepare for extreme.
 
It seems like your list is exceeding your original budget.

Here is how I would prioritize:

1. Tags/Travel: Experience is the best investment you can make. All the best gear in the world doesn't do any good if you can't afford to go.

2. Boots/Sleep system: The old cowboy wisdom, "Don't skimp on your mattress (bag/pad) and boots. If you aren't in one, you're in the other."

3. Shelter: If you can't rest between long, hard hunts you are going to be tempted to quit.

4. Pack: It doesn't have to be premium, it just has to work.

5. Binocular: This is the optic you will use the most. It can save you miles of hiking. The cheapest adequate option is the Leupold Yosemite. The Vortex Diamondback is the next step at around $250. These are not premium options, but they are functional. Going $1000 plus on binoculars only makes sense if you can afford it and still afford to go.

6. Rangefinder: Similar to the binocular. Get what you can afford. Sig and Nikon have options for several budgets.

7. Scope: You wont use it much. If yours is sealed and holds zero, use it. If not get something that does at a reasonable price.

Overall, hunting is about the experience and that experience is far more valuable than any gear choice. I would never subscribe to the "Wait a few years so you can get the best gear" kind of advice, and I am a gear addict.
 
Have you thought about setting aside some of your budget and hiring a packer if you're successful? Could be money well spent. You could save that between now and season if you don't want that part of your 2k budget.
 
It seems like your list is exceeding your original budget.

Here is how I would prioritize:

1. Tags/Travel: Experience is the best investment you can make. All the best gear in the world doesn't do any good if you can't afford to go.

2. Boots/Sleep system: The old cowboy wisdom, "Don't skimp on your mattress (bag/pad) and boots. If you aren't in one, you're in the other."

3. Shelter: If you can't rest between long, hard hunts you are going to be tempted to quit.

4. Pack: It doesn't have to be premium, it just has to work.

5. Binocular: This is the optic you will use the most. It can save you miles of hiking. The cheapest adequate option is the Leupold Yosemite. The Vortex Diamondback is the next step at around $250. These are not premium options, but they are functional. Going $1000 plus on binoculars only makes sense if you can afford it and still afford to go.

6. Rangefinder: Similar to the binocular. Get what you can afford. Sig and Nikon have options for several budgets.

7. Scope: You wont use it much. If yours is sealed and holds zero, use it. If not get something that does at a reasonable price.

Overall, hunting is about the experience and that experience is far more valuable than any gear choice. I would never subscribe to the "Wait a few years so you can get the best gear" kind of advice, and I am a gear addict.

Completely agree. I am definitely not waiting to go! I am in the middle of planning a cross country move in June, and then a couple months later I'll be up to my elbows in elk hunting. Being in Colorado though, it just doesn't make sense to start spending on out of state tags right away. I am going to try to hunt at least two seasons this year in CO, and I'll also be doing archery with my grandfather in CT. Boots are going to be a challenge, since I don't live in an area with a lot of good boot shops. I'll have to order a few pairs and try them on. I haven't had good luck with boots in the past, although I do have a pair I like in CT, I think they are Lacrosse, but they're too big and clunky for hiking far in.

Sneaky: I like the packer idea. I will definitely look into that.
 
You can have an archery and a rifle tag in CO. You can find potential hunting partners in lots of hunting forums, this one and WapitiTalk for example. You could backpack during archery then rifle hunt the same unit from a road or spike camp. Unsure from your posts whether you will be eligible for resident tags by fall, 2 NR tags would be about $1K. Gearwise, you will use 10x42 binocs about every day of your hunting life, so go big there. Upgrade your rifle optics, scope can be used as rangefinder. Your current backpacking gear will be good for most of Sept. Some guys use trail running shoes during archery, but you'll need boots when packing game. I've done well w Sierra Trading Post for boots on a budget, I live near their retail store in CO Springs so returns to the store are free if I order the wrong size, or order 3 pairs to pick the best fit. You are far more likely to see rain than snow in CO in Sept, so breathable, packable rain gear will keep you hunting instead of tentbound. This year CO archery ends 9/24/17, and Septs have been mild the last 10 or so years. Good luck, PM if I can help.
 
Upgrade the scope, hands down. You said "some random scope", so I'm assuming it's a p.o.s. If that's the case, it's the only item on the list that could very well prevent you from being successful. Nothing sucks more than watching an animal trot off because your piece of crap scope is fogged up. When you upgrade your rifle you can throw that new scope on a new rifle. I'm not a big rifle guy but I know very good Leupold scopes can be had for well under $1000. Your .270 is perfectly adequate, and like you said, decent glass suffices in timbered areas. If you're buy once, cry once kind of guy, get a good versatile backpack that fits well and be done. Not going to effect chance of success but I would prioritize that particular comfort item over a slightly lighter rifle.
 
Here are the things I've seen ruin hunts....boots, binos, rain gear and tents.

Pretty easy to keep rolling with a Win .270...if it's not broke, don't fix it. I'd spend a bit and stick a decent scope on it in good mounts- about $250ish will get you there. Hard to go wrong with a VX 2 or even a Nikon or Burris.

Binos....if you can spend $400-500 you can get a very serviceable pair of binos that will last your lifetime. Pick up any old $99 rangefinder if you need one- no need to range 1600 yards if you're not shooting over 300. If you're in timber, you might just skip it altogether since you'll rarely shoot past 100yds.

The world is full of decent packs, you can spend a lot or a little but you can find a perfectly serviceable pack for under $500.

Agree with all of this...well stated.
 
You didn't ask, but if your going to replace the scope, you might look at DNZ scope mount/rings. I have them on my .308 and I love them.
 
Looking at your wish list, it seems like your budget has about doubled. It happens…. Roksliders are really good at spending other people’s money. A lot of this list will depend on what failed on a person on their past hunts. For me it was boots…so they rank up there on my list. For other guys it may have been a subpar backpack. I’ll give you one guess as to what they’ll tell you is the most important piece of gear to upgrade.

1. IF REQUIRED - Rifle/Scope - $2-300 - like others have said, make sure that scope won't fog up or fail in any way. If in doubt, you can get a good solid replacement under $300. If yours doesn’t fog up and holds zero, leave it. Then spend lots of time at the range shooting said rifle.

2. Boots - $3-500 - I don't care what anyone says here, make sure you have a good broke-in pair of boots. And use leukotape liberally. As I was getting started on bigger, more backcountry style hunts, I learned this the hard way. In the past, I've walked away from animals because I knew my boots and beat up feet wouldn't take me to where the animal was that I glassed up. Not that size is everything, but I walked away from an easy 180"+ mule deer, knowing if I got to him and killed him, there was no way my feet/boots would get that animal out before the meat spoiled. I lost 6 or 7 toenails after that hunt. Get the right boots for the hunt you'll be going on, and break those things in with weight on your back, on the most uneven terrain you can find. Practice "sidehilling" in a roadside ditch if you have to. Get your boots soaking wet and walk around, tightening as needed. Sounds like you have some backpacking experience so I may be preaching to the choir here, but get some miles on those boots.

3. Binos - $800-1000 (Tripod - $80-600) I like to glass. I've hunted NW CO for 2nd and 3rd season rifle elk a few times, and in my 3rd year wound up killing a cow that happened to come running by me as I sat down to eat lunch in the thick timber. 30 yard shot, done deal. It was wild, and completely lucky. BUT, I had good rain gear, and wasn’t sitting back at camp huddled in the wall tent like a lot of other guys mid-day. Because I had good rain gear, I was comfortably hunting in the rain in low 40 degree weather. But in that same unit, I could glass for miles in some really neat country. Starting out, a good set of 10x or 8x binos would be my recommendation. I’m running Maven B2 9x45’s now and I love them. Used they were $800. Had 10x42 Vortex Viper HD’s before that. You can easily find these under $500. They did the job well for me for 5 seasons, but the Mavens are a big step up. Those Trinovids you have listed above will serve you well. I also have 15x56 Kaibab HD’s… I love these, but on a backpack hunt they usually stay in the pickup. I also have a Razor 85mm spotter that is in my pack pretty much every time I’m out. It’s not necessary for everyone, but right now I’m addicted to it. Also, keep an eye on the used market here to save some cash.

4. Pack - $300-600 - I've never used SG, but that pack you have listed will cover pretty much anything you want to do. Load it up and get it adjusted to fit you and you'll be happy you did. Don’t be afraid to go used here to save a few dollars too. MR, SG, Exo, Kifaru, they all make quality packs.

5. Rangefinder - $150-200 – I have a 10 year old Leupold RX-III… this piece of gear is getting upgraded this year. It can barely range out to 400 yards in good conditions. You won’t regret spending more money here, but you can definitely get by with something cheaper if you keep your shots under 4-500 yards.

6. My write in – ESPECIALLY if you’re backpack hunting, make sure you have good rain gear. Most of the big names are putting out good rain gear. Pick your favorite brand and buy the best stuff they make.

Another note, my first year hunting NW CO (2011) was 3rd rifle OTC elk. 2-4 feet of fresh snow in the mountains and nasty cold temps...little to no snow down low in the PJ and my tag was good for both areas. We had a wall tent camp up high in the snow, and split our time spending 4-5 days trying to cut tracks in crotch deep snow up high and 3-4 days glassing the PJ down low. Zero elk sighted that year... we were rookies.
Year 2 (2012) - same season/same area/same OTC bull tag. Few snow showers, most day time highs in the 40's to low 50's...spotted and got close to lots of cows, had opportunities at a nice bull but things didn't come together.
Year 3 (2015) – 2nd rifle/same area/leftover cow tag. Rain, rain, rain, rain... still hunted a lot in the timber and wound up killing that cow I mentioned above. Temps hovered around freezing, but I spent nearly every hour in rain gear.
Year 4 (2016) – 2nd rifle/Central CO limited bull tag - hunted up high, killed a bull at like 12,800' on day 6. Crazy year for warm weather and hardly any precip. This was an all-in solo backpack hunt, and I shot him 7.5 miles and about 3K feet elevation gain from the trailhead. 407 yard shot. I would have spent ridiculous amounts of money for a packer on this hunt, but couldn't get in touch with anyone permitted to work in this unit. If you're gonna use a packer, definitely line that up before you have a bull on the ground.

I hope that gives you a little taste of how varied these 2nd and 3rd rifle season elk hunts can be. You might end up buying gear and leaving it at home depending what the forecast is when season rolls around. $2000 is a lot of money to play with, and I guarantee your gear list will be better than mine was for my first couple trips to CO. I had a blast on a ramen and hotdogs budget. Good luck with your move.
 
How many miles should I put in to a boot to break it in, 50? 100? My main problem is that I'm in flatland Florida right now so finding good terrain to break them in will be tough, and I'll spend a lot of money on return shipping. I was thinking of waiting until I get to CO in early July to buy boots, but that only leaves me a couple months to break them in.

I heard someone say somewhere that I should pop my rifle scope into the freezer to check for fogging, is that true? I don't know what scope is on the rifle, but I've hunted deer with it many years and it's always stayed true, never had an issue with it, but I don't know what is there because I'm still waiting on my grandfather to mail me the rifle. He gave it to me years ago, but it's out of state. It took me a long time to convince him that he could not in fact (legally) mail it down to me or have me bring it back on a plane or car trip, and that it had to go through an FFL, and that it would not be "registered" lol. :rolleyes:

strand: thanks for the huge writeup! It really helps. I've been on a few backcountry backpacking trips so the whole process of learning from each trip and fine tuning things is familiar to me. Sometimes you get lucky and have perfect conditions and you don't get to learn all of the hard hard lessons that you should. I always try to be prepared and be safe and have a bail out plan, and then hope for the best. Sometimes you get rain, sometimes you get heat, sometimes both, and eventually you start to learn to handle most of the tricks that the backcountry can throw at you.

I knew my budget would inflate, that's why I started a little small, plus there were some things that seemed like good ideas that were WAY more expensive than I anticipated, like the tripod head for instance. Doesn't make sense to put $1,000 glass on a janky $30 head and have it jerking around. I have never glassed, but I think that I will enjoy it a lot, so I want to make sure I am off on the right foot there. I'm definitely keeping an eye on the classifieds here and elsewhere.

I am extremely grateful for all of the well thought out replies so far. Ya'll are very generous with your time, answering questions that have probably been answered a million times. Rest assured, I am spending hours and hours scanning back through old content and learning as much as I can from those who have come before me.
 
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