What’s your favorite Epoxy

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So I’m busy building arrows and on one that I finished yesterday, I shit through my spider web target and lost the insert on the way out. I’m shooting Black Eagle X Impacts with the FOCOS system epoxied in with Easton’s Epoxy.

What’s y’all’s favorite epoxy? I need a stronger one


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I’ve had good luck with the Easton epoxy, for me the epoxies job isn’t to keep the outsert stuck to the shaft but to fill the void in the glue grooves and make a mechanical bond. I haven’t used the FOCOS system so I’m not sure how the grooves work on them.


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I may give that Bishop epoxy a try. It’s pricey, but so are arrows and inserts


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I haven’t used epoxy but used the gold tip glue and had 1 arrow that the broadhead pulled out and I was able to shove the shaft back into the target and push it out the other side to retrieve the broadhead/insert/collar
 
So I’m busy building arrows and on one that I finished yesterday, I shit through my spider web target and lost the insert on the way out. I’m shooting Black Eagle X Impacts with the FOCOS system epoxied in with Easton’s Epoxy.

What’s y’all’s favorite epoxy? I need a stronger one


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I don't know about epoxies, but I'm very concerned about the way you use your spider web target!

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I will add that prep work is the key. I use acetone to clean out the inside and the outside of the insert and then I use some denatured alcohol to do the same all over again. You have to work fast with the five minute stuff. But that five minutes is the working time not the cure time. You still need to leave it go for a few hours before your shoot them.
 
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Gorrilla glue two part epoxy on inserts, lok tite also...no problem with either of them
 
Gorrilla glue two part epoxy on inserts, lok tite also...no problem with either of them
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I use gorilla two part epoxy on all my inserts. I mix up very small batches, just enough to do 3-4 arrows at a time.

I typically use HIT inserts and make sure every component gets cleaned and prepped thoroughly.

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I use Devcon # 31345 2 Ton Clear Epoxy, has 30 min. working time and 8-12 hr. cure time (I wait until the next day to shoot). The 30 mins gives you plenty of time to do dozen or more inserts. Never had a problem with adhesion but, I always clean the inside of the shaft with a Q-Tip wet with isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol, wipe the insert as well. Just make sure the shaft and insert are dry before applying epoxy. I have also used the Easton epoxy using the same process with no problems.
 
Agreed prep work with 100% acetone and Easton epoxy has worked great for me. A slow cure IMO holds better/stronger. I do cure them an additional 24 hours for a 48 hour cure Before shooting.

This is how I prep my arrows for epoxy. Scroll down to the bottom-ish.

Also if you wanna give Easton another go...I’ll send You a pack of the Easton epoxy. I have a few extras.(y)
 

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Agreed prep work with 100% acetone and Easton epoxy has worked great for me. A slow cure IMO holds better/stronger. I do cure them an additional 24 hours for a 48 hour cure Before shooting.

This is how I prep my arrows for epoxy. Scroll down to the bottom-ish.

Also if you wanna give Easton another go...I’ll send You a pack of the Easton epoxy. I have a few extras.(y)

Awesome write up! And I thought that I was OCD with my arrows, Love it. Someone recently talked me out of cleaning the insides with acetone. They said something along the lines of “Effects the adhesives and weakens blah blah blah” I knew that I shouldn’t listen to them, but they had been doing it longer than me. Going back to my acetone- thanks!!


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Awesome write up! And I thought that I was OCD with my arrows, Love it. Someone recently talked me out of cleaning the insides with acetone. They said something along the lines of “Effects the adhesives and weakens blah blah blah” I knew that I shouldn’t listen to them, but they had been doing it longer than me. Going back to my acetone- thanks!!


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I’m glad you enjoyed it! And you know what I think whom ever talked to you about acetone May have been confused with using hot melt to set the inserts? Excessive heat could “potentially weaken” the carbon on the inside of the shafts. In quotes because I’ve never used hot melt and probably never will! Good luck to ya sir!

Also if you decide on the Easton epoxy...lemme know I’ll hook ya up! :cool:
 
There is a direct correlation between curing time and ductility for epoxies. The faster it cures, the more brittle it is when cured. Sometimes the epoxy isn't letting go, it gets cracked until the epoxy itself fails. True 24hr cure epoxy is great, but not easy to find. Online or have a buddy that does composites.
 
I’m glad you enjoyed it! And you know what I think whom ever talked to you about acetone May have been confused with using hot melt to set the inserts? Excessive heat could “potentially weaken” the carbon on the inside of the shafts. In quotes because I’ve never used hot melt and probably never will! Good luck to ya sir!

Also if you decide on the Easton epoxy...lemme know I’ll hook ya up! :cool:

No, that comment is definately in reference to acetone, but I think they are off base. If you soak carbon arrows in acetone for an extended period, it would eventually damage them by degrading the resin. I wouldn't worry in the least about a quick swipe with acetone on a q-tip (or 2 or 3).

I have used only low temp hot melt for inserts on carbon arrows for the past 10+ years with no arrow damage. You just need to go low and slow. When I index my BH's I slowly spin the arrow over a tea candle, testing for a softened bond every 3-4 seconds. It doesn't take much heat or much time.
 
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