Whats the more versatile rifle 7 rem mag or 300 win mag for out west?

[grfox92]

Probably hard to find rum ammo at a moment and pop store if you forgot to pack it

Why do people constantly suggest selecting a caliber based on cartridge popularity "in case you forget your ammo."

Come on man.

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[grfox92]

At this point I would NEVER buy a magnum for any type of North American big game hunting. 280 AI would be the largest cartridge I would ever own at this point.

Watching guys shoot magnums since ive switched to smaller calibers really reinforces just how bad guy shoot magnums. If your buying a magnum, your not intending to shoot it a lot. If your not intending on shooting it a lot, your not going to shoot it well. Im not telling you to get a .223 or 6mm, but 7mm08, .308, 6.5cm are all killers out beyond 99% of hunters maximum range.

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[ScottinPA]

Ohh you done one upped me bro

I'll see your 7STW and raise you to 358STA .

Originally I was going to build a 300WM but came across the STA and decided to build it instead. 25yrs later I kinda wish I would've stayed with the original plan but I've found a good reduced load for the STA that's good for PA and can always go back to full strength if I go west.

 

[BradArnett]

At this point I would NEVER buy a magnum for any type of North American big game hunting. 280 AI would be the largest cartridge I would ever own at this point.

Watching guys shoot magnums since ive switched to smaller calibers really reinforces just how bad guy shoot magnums. If your buying a magnum, your not intending to shoot it a lot. If your not intending on shooting it a lot, your not going to shoot it well. Im not telling you to get a .223 or 6mm, but 7mm08, .308, 6.5cm are all killers out beyond 99% of hunters maximum range.

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Good points! But it seems like the farther guys get from home the bigger the rifle they think they need. Our last elk hunt there were 3 of us. I took a 6.5cm, because my 22-250ai wasn't legal there, my other friend whom I shoot with alot brought a 260, last guy felt like he needed to bring a 300wm.

Last bear hunt before that trip, 1 was killed with a 6.5, 1 was hit and not recovered.....by the guy with the 300wm.

 

[MT762]

Pick up a 7 rem mag for hunting out west. I know there's some debate on choice rounds whats yours 7 rem mag or 300 win mag? Orrrr... 300 rum

RUM aside...LOL...

With factory ammo and factory twists... not much difference between the 7 and the 300. Most factory 7 mags are 1:9.5 twist and you are not shooting any crazy high-BC bullets, that is for sure.

Some folks like being able to launch 200gr+ bullets from a 30 cal. There is way more factory ammo available at higher bullet weights, with a greater variety of bullets, with the 300 mag.

Recoil is the same, given the same bullet weight. Barely any wind drift difference with properly selected factory ammo.

Where the 7 would give a real advantage is if you built one with a 1:8 twist barrel and ran 175 or 180gr bullets. Manageable recoil and crazy slick bullets.

Otherwise it's a wash and I'd probably go 300 mag, but it's def Ford/Chevy.

As someone else mentioned, a 30-06 based cartridge (whether in .30 or .284) will do basically all the same things and your off-season round count will be double or possibly triple for the same $$$ expenditure.

But if you're on here...you probably aren't worried about that!

 

[23lions]

300 win mag will let you use heavier bullets, and shoot the same weight bullets faster. Most factory loads for 7 mag top out around 175 grain but .300 win mag had 220 grain options loaded from factory. It has a higher case capacity as well if you hand load. The big tradeoff is recoil. The .300 win mag has about 25% more recoil than a 7 mag.

 

[TheViking]

Why do people constantly suggest selecting a caliber based on cartridge popularity "in case you forget your ammo."

Come on man.

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This.
Who the hell goes on a hunting trip and plans to buy ammo when they get there?
I get the whole maybe an airline loses it, but all my shit will be lost with it, not just ammo.
Buy a handful of boxes at a time and plan ahead accordingly.

 

[eric1115]

Former 7mmRM guy here. My kill-everything-at-all-ranges rifle is now a .243AI. It keeps a heavy-ish 6mm bullet above upset velocity to further range than 99.8% of guys (including me) have any business shooting a hooved animal. No regrets, it's a better shooting and killing tool at both short and long range than my magnum was (and it was great, I shot 180 Bergers out of it and those things were deadly).

Consider smaller. Read the .223 and 6mm threads. Most of us recommending these smaller options have killed quite a few critters with magnums.