Whats a good salary to you?

[Billy Goat]

Homeschooling is generally done by low income, low IQ ultra religious MAGA types who think their kids are going to become gay if they go to public school. Homeschool kids get bullied and have poor social skills as well.

I think you answered it with:

You are speaking to your own personal bias and making things up.

If you really think that's the case, you are extremely lost. I think you might be a little guilty of the same thing you are accusing on people.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I think you answered it with:




If you really think that's the case, you are extremely lost. I think you might be a little guilty of the same thing you are accusing on people.

Just speaking about what I’ve personally witnessed. Sorry people don’t like to hear it. I get it though, people only like to hear opinions that they agree with.

 

[Billy Goat]

Just speaking bailout what I’ve personally witnessed. Sorry people don’t like to hear it.

You're speaking in broad, offensive brush strokes.


I'll say there was a time that I thought somewhat similar, must be religious nuts, etc. It's not, I actually know a fair number of kids that are homeschooled now, and I think they are very well adjusted, sharp, and well on their way to being responsible individuals.


I'm also friends, like face to face friends with 2 forum members that have chosen to homeschool their kids, so I'm seeing your statements as being attacking of fellow members and generally unconducive.

I'd give it a break for the night at least.

 

[Ucsdryder]

4 Tylenol, a big glass of water and a good nights sleep.

 

[cnelk]

4 Tylenol, a big glass of water and a good nights sleep.

Screw that.
Just take a gummie.

 

[Split toe]

Screw that.
Just take a gummie.

You mean a mountain melatonin!

 

[DuckDogDr]

What I was making before my clinic was sold to a corporation

 

[Njhunter1124]

I’m in New Jersey and 100k doesn’t seem like enough anymore.

 

[Will_m]

4 Tylenol, a big glass of water and a good nights sleep.

No joke. I’m pretty sure mixing Tylenol and alcohol is dangerous.

 

[dirtshooter]

Say what you want about not having kids, you'll never know how awesome the feeling is to see your 2 year old get excited when you haul a nice walleye out of the ice and weeks later he still talks about that fish or when your 5 year old brings in his own fish for the first time and you spend the rest of the day pulling him around the lake in a sled because he's all done fishing. I can only imagine how great it will be when they become my hunting buddies. My current buddy that was my hunting buddy spends most of his time working and not so much hunting. Great friend and I hesitate to call him my old hunting buddy but I probably should. My buddy that took me on a sheep hunt also has 2 boys the same ages as my own, one day all of us might be in the field together hauling out elk.

 

[dr.mooseknuckles]

Really, I thought being a vet was a really good career until I read this post.

It can be, with everything being corporately owned and driven, it's tough. Probably need about $1-2 million to start your own practice and have it full service (i.e. x-ray, dental, surgery, in-house labs, ultrasound).

Plus with the instant gratification of society, along with increased "care" for pets, you can run into some rough situations that are not worth the emotional toil that you can get into. The whole "you're in if for the money" type crap, "I'm on a fixed income" type shit gets old.

I've become so calloused, that in those situations I retort, "Who isn't on a fixed income?" and "Let's go find the person who held you at gunpoint and told you that you had to own __________(insert pet)? I'll help you hunt them down!"

Really more than anything, I'm tired of the large scale corporate BS and limited growing/earning potential. I'm pretty much maxed out.

 

[Mish-pop]

What if you can have both though?

If you can find both or work your way up to both that is the ultimate goal. However, to get the freedom often you have to sacrifice the time and freedom now to get to that point. Which making sacrifice in the near term and working hard for what you truly want should be the goal. There are times however, where you get the freedom you want but money isn't quite what you would like. Then it's a tough decision about giving it up to go after the almighty dollar. I'm currently in a situation where I really like my job but not making quite where I would like to be. My wife and I are financially stable but not getting ahead as fast as we would like. We also just had a new baby. Unfortunately there is no way to advance at current position. The best way to make significantly more would be to start my own business in my field which would require capital we don't have and would require a family sacrifice I cannot make right now.

 

[Marble]

For the example that was being discussed, why isn’t the husband leveling up on his income? It would seem if he is comfortable with making $60k and not wanting to progress that would be an issue also.

Just curious since the conversation was all about the wife doing something.


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I was thinking the same thing. If he is struggling in his current situation, then he needs to do something different or in addition.

I am 100% for the wife staying home and raising kids. The return on your investment in your children sets them up for huge success. I would rather struggle while my wife stayed home and raised kids, then have money and have someone else raise my kids.

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[Lelder]

I always try and remember...

Comparison is the thief of joy.

i love this quote! i drive an older truck and a beater work car but they are just fine to me. My wife and i do okay combined but we concentrate on funding our retirement accounts first and after paying our bills whats left is our play money. where i live in N.E ohio making around 60k a year is a decent living for our real estate market. to answer the OP's question i think that a two income family where i live making 80-100k should be just fine but i also live for myself and dont worry about what others think of my possessions

 

[Grizzle]

He was absolutely not embarrassed by it and continues to go get blackout drunk most days. His wife makes excuses for him so he just keeps doing it. She’s dumb too for staying with him when he prioritizes getting wasted over his young family.

It’s a good example of parents who should not be parents.

Not sure what part of my post your replying to? Can't imagine how my post had anything to do with your response? Assuming it was a mistake.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Not sure what part of my post your replying to? Can't imagine how my post had anything to do with your response? Assuming it was a mistake.

Probably just a mistake. I was trying to respond to a bunch of weirdos who were all angry because I said mean things about homeschool while also doing a bunch of stuff around my house.

 

[wyosam]

Typo. BFD. $35 an hour for a normal work schedule is $73k per year.

Even then, if we're speaking about daycare only, it's still only 5 or 6 years until they go to school, so $73k for 5 years is $365k.

Doesn’t really end with school if both parents work. Filling the summers can cost more than daycare.


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[ddowning]

Yup, he’s normalizing taking handouts to feed and cloth his kids while his wife stays home and dosent have an income.

The only way it could get worse would be if those kids were from another man. That’s another can of worms all together. Shacking up with a low income woman whose dragging around kids from another marriage…..

You have an awful lot of stereotypes of women who don't work. Sometimes your stereotypes are dead on. If the dad is working hard to advance his career, by the time the kids know what is going on, he will be the one extending the handouts to people in need.

I was not given a lot of handouts, but there were some. I have a long way to go, but my wife and I have put ourselves in a position in life where we can help when we feel it is warranted. That is the most rewarding thing about making money to me. The wife and I have a long way to go. We have not paid to build any schools, churches, or community centers. The goal is to contribute to the community in as large a way as possible. Regardless of how much money you have, your greatest contribution is the example you set.

It's possible the guy is ashamed and working hard to create a better situation for his family...it's also likely he's not. We should not try to make assumptions without being much closer to the situation.

 

[Lowedown]

In my area if you clear that 100k you are over 3x the median income, so for me it is still a decent mark. No it doesn't do what it used to, but there's more to life than money. Any options I have considered that would notably increase my cash income would also greatly cost my family time.
Right now I have a 4 day work week, great schedule flexibility, benefits, retirement, and I get to coach my kids sports, be home every evening, and my bills are paid. I do a little extra work on the side at times for fun money.
Do we have everything we could ever want with zero financial stress at times? No, BUT we have so much to be thankful for, and I am proud to afford to spend time (most precious commodity) with my family.
As others have stated; comparison is the thief of joy.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

You have an awful lot of stereotypes of women who don't work. Sometimes your stereotypes are dead on. If the dad is working hard to advance his career, by the time the kids know what is going on, he will be the one extending the handouts to people in need.

I was not given a lot of handouts, but there were some. I have a long way to go, but my wife and I have put ourselves in a position in life where we can help when we feel it is warranted. That is the most rewarding thing about making money to me. The wife and I have a long way to go. We have not paid to build any schools, churches, or community centers. The goal is to contribute to the community in as large a way as possible. Regardless of how much money you have, your greatest contribution is the example you set.

It's possible the guy is ashamed and working hard to create a better situation for his family...it's also likely he's not. We should not try to make assumptions without being much closer to the situation.

You make very good points, I guess to me it just seems strange to so (seemingly) casually let other people feed and cloth your kids while an able bodied adult refuses to work. That was really my main point, all feelings about homeschool aside, it just seems like the guy sort of expects handouts. I'd give more specific examples but I don't want to make it possible to identify him but we are talking handouts in the thousands of dollars, people anonymously paying his rent and things like that. I'd personally be embarrassed, moreover, I would have trouble repeating and staying married to a woman who wouldn't work while those things were taking place. its a case of "I would do anything for my family".....except.......working.

The fact that the guy talks about it openly leads me to believe he isn’t ashamed and actually likes not paying for his stuff.