What would you recommend for a $1000 spotting scope?

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It's getting difficult to get out west as often as I'd like when I have to pay for guides every time, so I'm trying to ween myself off the guides and accumulate more of the gear I need to DIY. Thus, I'd like some advice on which spotting scopes to look at. I'll offer the following bullet points to give you some background and flavor:

- I'm sure the first question many of you will ask is "what will you use it for?" And the answer, unfortunately, is that I don't know. I've never owned a spotter, so I'm not real sure how I'd use it. I've only ever used my 10x42 binos for glassing, then maybe peek through someone else's spotter to get a better look at something. I'm not really sure if it would only be used like that, or if I'd do more full time glassing with it.
- I can tell you that I'm not a light weight guy. I'm not venturing deep into the wilderness with everything I need to live and hunt strapped to my back, so a few ounces doesn't matter to me. More of a minimalist, really, so smaller size would be more important to me than lighter weight.

- I know there's a lot of 'buy once cry once' advice on Rokslide, but I'm not that guy. I would much rather buy something cheaper the first time so I can learn through using the product what I ultimately want or need out of it. Then, I have the confidence and motivation to spend more the second time if necessary because I know what I'm getting for my money, AND I can offset that cost by selling the first one. So, I see it more as "buy twice, cry never."

- Someone on a recent thread recommended the mini Vortex (Razor 13-39x56) for looking at anything inside of a mile. Do you all often find yourselves looking at things farther than that? Is that 85 mm aperture really important to have, or does it just help with the last 20 minutes of daylight?

- I love buying stuff used to save a few bucks, so we can tweak that $1k limit a bit to include a scope that could be 1300-1400 new.
 
Do you have alpha tier 10x42’s and a good tripod?

Have you used 15x binoculars off a tripod? Those are often better tools than a spotter to find game.

As mentioned a used Kowa is the only $1k spotter worth considering, otherwise it’s money thrown away.

Spotting scopes are an expensive low yield tool especially for elk. For mule deer they matter more. They are a bad optical value in a lot of ways.
 
A used Kowa 553 or 554 would be hard to beat with that budget.
I knew nothing about Kowas. I looked up that model and found this review that was very impressed with it:

 
Do you have alpha tier 10x42’s and a good tripod?

Have you used 15x binoculars off a tripod? Those are often better tools than a spotter to find game.

As mentioned a used Kowa is the only $1k spotter worth considering, otherwise it’s money thrown away.

Spotting scopes are an expensive low yield tool especially for elk. For mule deer they matter more. They are a bad optical value in a lot of ways.
I have mid tier 10x42's and a cheap tripod. So far, I've only been chasing bears with them near the west coast and haven't seen the need to upgrade.

Never used higher power binos. Even if they're better for glassing around, don't you still need a higher mag tool for taking a closer look before deciding to stalk or stay?

FWIW, the next species on my bucket list will be mule deer (don't know where) and Audad (TX).
 
Agree, get alpha binos before spotter. Gotta find them before you judge them. 15s can tell you most of what you need to know.

Kowa and Swaro are top spotters for birders, they are even more crazy than hunters.
 
It's getting difficult to get out west as often as I'd like when I have to pay for guides every time, so I'm trying to ween myself off the guides and accumulate more of the gear I need to DIY. Thus, I'd like some advice on which spotting scopes to look at. I'll offer the following bullet points to give you some background and flavor:

- I'm sure the first question many of you will ask is "what will you use it for?" And the answer, unfortunately, is that I don't know. I've never owned a spotter, so I'm not real sure how I'd use it. I've only ever used my 10x42 binos for glassing, then maybe peek through someone else's spotter to get a better look at something. I'm not really sure if it would only be used like that, or if I'd do more full time glassing with it.
- I can tell you that I'm not a light weight guy. I'm not venturing deep into the wilderness with everything I need to live and hunt strapped to my back, so a few ounces doesn't matter to me. More of a minimalist, really, so smaller size would be more important to me than lighter weight.

- I know there's a lot of 'buy once cry once' advice on Rokslide, but I'm not that guy. I would much rather buy something cheaper the first time so I can learn through using the product what I ultimately want or need out of it. Then, I have the confidence and motivation to spend more the second time if necessary because I know what I'm getting for my money, AND I can offset that cost by selling the first one. So, I see it more as "buy twice, cry never."

- Someone on a recent thread recommended the mini Vortex (Razor 13-39x56) for looking at anything inside of a mile. Do you all often find yourselves looking at things farther than that? Is that 85 mm aperture really important to have, or does it just help with the last 20 minutes of daylight?

- I love buying stuff used to save a few bucks, so we can tweak that $1k limit a bit to include a scope that could be 1300-1400 new.
I have a kowa88 and the 56mm vortex razor. I have a like hate relationship with the razor. The kowa I freakin love. But the kowa is big money. So, back to the razor. It's not the clearest. And it kind of blows in low light. But it will help you during normal daylight hours to get a better look at something that your binos can't help you decipher. I've been tempted numerous times to upgrade to a kowa 553. But talk myself out of it because I've yet to need my razor in first or last light conditions. I keep telling myself that at first light it's probably to early to use it, and at last light it certainly is too late because I'm not getting to the animal in time.

If it were going to be my primary scope then I'd go with a used Kowa 553, although I would think hard about a 66. I just don't know if one can be had used in your price range. Kowa glass (prominar) is incredible.
 
I have mid tier 10x42's and a cheap tripod. So far, I've only been chasing bears with them near the west coast and haven't seen the need to upgrade.

Never used higher power binos. Even if they're better for glassing around, don't you still need a higher mag tool for taking a closer look before deciding to stalk or stay?

FWIW, the next species on my bucket list will be mule deer (don't know where) and Audad (TX).
I’ve had a spotter and 15x binoculars, sold the spotter and went multiple seasons before buying a really good spotting scope. A spotter has uses but it’s the lowest use of a hunting optic.

Were you out glassing your guide with mid tier 10x or just seeing what they already found?
 
I would look into the new GPO spotter. My dad sold a razor for the GPO. It is very noticeably better. @gr8fuldoug would be a good resource for this thread.
 
These are pretty good for the $$, but are bit heavy if packing in.

I rarely take a spotter into the field anymore, but I'm also not chasing trophies.
 
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