What would you do??? Outfitted hunt

The prices and understandings from both the hunter and outfitter have me confused. Maybe a full menu would be more appropriate. In addition to the overall cost of the hunt/lodging/food there would be upgrades and downgrades.

How about for upgrades:
1. First person to hunt a stand +$50
2. Fresh corn at stand +$25
3. Shot distance marked like on a football field +$25
4. 1 shooting lane trimmed $10, etc. So that 4 shooting lanes would be +$40
5. Walk on flat ground less than 1/4 mile +$40
6. Walk on flat ground over 1/4 mile but less than 3/4 mile +$10

How about these downgrades:
1. Have to hunt stand after outfitter -$50
2. Have to bring outfitters corn out yourself -$25
3. Have to buy your own corn and bring it out yourself -$50
4. No bait of any kind -$100
5. Have to figure out the shot distance yourself -$20
6. Clear your own shooting lanes or deal with what nature gave you -$30
7. Bring your own stand and hang it yourself -$100
8. Walk through hills and brush up to 1/2 mile -$40
9. Walk through hills, brush, and spiderwebs in the dark over 1/2 mile -$100
10. Hunt public land, scout it yourdamnself, hang your own damn stand, clear your own damn shooting lanes, and hike to it in the dark without a trail, through hills and spiderwebs $$ FREE
 
elkstabber said:
The prices and understandings from both the hunter and outfitter have me confused. Maybe a full menu would be more appropriate. In addition to the overall cost of the hunt/lodging/food there would be upgrades and downgrades.

How about for upgrades:
1. First person to hunt a stand +$50
2. Fresh corn at stand +$25
3. Shot distance marked like on a football field +$25
4. 1 shooting lane trimmed $10, etc. So that 4 shooting lanes would be +$40
5. Walk on flat ground less than 1/4 mile +$40
6. Walk on flat ground over 1/4 mile but less than 3/4 mile +$10

How about these downgrades:
1. Have to hunt stand after outfitter -$50
2. Have to bring outfitters corn out yourself -$25
3. Have to buy your own corn and bring it out yourself -$50
4. No bait of any kind -$100
5. Have to figure out the shot distance yourself -$20
6. Clear your own shooting lanes or deal with what nature gave you -$30
7. Bring your own stand and hang it yourself -$100
8. Walk through hills and brush up to 1/2 mile -$40
9. Walk through hills, brush, and spiderwebs in the dark over 1/2 mile -$100
10. Hunt public land, scout it yourdamnself, hang your own damn stand, clear your own damn shooting lanes, and hike to it in the dark without a trail, through hills and spiderwebs $$ FREE
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I have nothing against hunting public. I have a deer on my wall I killed in public. But being successful on public takes time. And not everyone has time to scout, run cams, hang stands, relocate, find quality deer, then hunt them. Especially my wife. Between a career as a mechanical engineer, a side company she started as a hobby that’s grown and keeps her busy, and training in the gym for competitions, she’s limited. And I stay busy myself. Not to mention, that public land has to be reasonably close to allow for what you’re saying. Not disagreeing with what you’re saying. And I’m ok with not killing something. However, the place wasn’t exactly set up for success and our hunt time for a paid hunt was very limited and not at all what we expected.


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Here is what Rokslide is about:

"Rokslide was formed by a group of select individuals who literally live, eat, and breathe DIY western hunting 365 days a year. Sharing our passion, or better yet, our obsession, with other hardcore hunters is very important to our staff. This website truly provides other hardcore hunters who share that very same passion, a unique internet experience you won’t find anywhere else. It is here you will find unbiased gear reviews, shooting tips, fitness/workout routines and hunting tips & tactics from several of the top names in the hunting industry."

I'm not a Rokslide moderator and I'm not discouraging you from being here. Paying thousands of dollars to hunt whitetails according to their rack size in the midwest over bait with an outfitter who uses real-time trail cameras to scout for their clients is foreign to most of us.

So far the members of Rokslide have been very civil on this thread.
 
elkstabber said:
Here is what Rokslide is about:

"Rokslide was formed by a group of select individuals who literally live, eat, and breathe DIY western hunting 365 days a year. Sharing our passion, or better yet, our obsession, with other hardcore hunters is very important to our staff. This website truly provides other hardcore hunters who share that very same passion, a unique internet experience you won’t find anywhere else. It is here you will find unbiased gear reviews, shooting tips, fitness/workout routines and hunting tips & tactics from several of the top names in the hunting industry."

I'm not a Rokslide moderator and I'm not discouraging you from being here. Paying thousands of dollars to hunt whitetails according to their rack size in the midwest over bait with an outfitter who uses real-time trail cameras to scout for their clients is foreign to most of us.

So far the members of Rokslide have been very civil on this thread.
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I was simply starting a thread to ask some questions. I only gave an update Bc some may be inclined to know more. I hunt public every year and hunt out west every year. So I understand what you’re referencing and getting at.


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"General Discussion Forum"
"A place to discuss anything and everything that doesn't have its own forum."

I don't see why members would be un civil, he asked a question about others experiences in a general discussion forum about outfitted whitetail hunts and then updated how his hunt went which sounds like the outfitter made promises that they didn't honor, but maybe he should have asked it in the whitetail forum and left the General Discussion forum to the true hardcore hunters :rolleyes:
 
elkstabber said:
Paying thousands of dollars to hunt whitetails according to their rack size in the midwest over bait with an outfitter who uses real-time trail cameras to scout for their clients is foreign to most of us.
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But, sadly, hunters putting other hunters down because the way they like to hunt doesn't live up to their standards isn't foreign.
 
It sucks to hear what happened. You definitely were taken advantage of. Easy for anyone to in hindsight blame you, but most all of us have been misled or duped before. End of the day, you earn your money, you choose how to spend it and your time. Don’t let the rare egomaniac comment bother you....we’re all hunters.
 
Team4LongGun said:
It sucks to hear what happened. You definitely were taken advantage of. Easy for anyone to in hindsight blame you, but most all of us have been misled or duped before. End of the day, you earn your money, you choose how to spend it and your time. Don’t let the rare egomaniac comment bother you....we’re all hunters.
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Man I’m not worried. I booked this hunt to take my wife on. She’s brand new to archery but not new to killing deer. My thoughts were to make it easy on her so she could get her feet wet and hopefully stick a deer. After this experience she has said F*** that and wants to find land we can lease for ourselves and manage it the way we want to. I’ll still hunt on public Bc I have the time. She doesn’t or she would too. Half the fun for me is all the work that goes into finding and getting on those mature deer. The other half is eating him! She will get her first bow kill eventually though. She’s determined to and is hooked in being up close and personal with them now.


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“Don’t Hunt the bait pile put there to hunt deer over because you might spook the deer that are eating at the bait pile put there to hunt deer over.”
 
Poser said:
“Don’t Hunt the bait pile put there to hunt deer over because you might spook the deer that are eating at the bait pile put there to hunt deer over.”
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Yup. Makes perfect sense!


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ddavis_1313 said:
I’ll agree for the most part. Mainly Bc I have time to go hunt when I want most of the time. However, without spending money and due to where I live, bigger deer aren’t possible. I’m happy as can be with the animals I have taken and will continue to take where I hunt. However, I’ve killed 140’s. My wife has too. So we are spending money to have the best chance possible at a deer bigger than what we have access to. One of three things will happen. We will not Kill. We will kill a “shooter” or we will kill a bigger deer which is what we want. This ain’t about disappointment of only killing a 140. There are only so many deer to hunt that fit what we would love to harvest. The more pressure and the more of these that are taken before we arrive, the lower our odds go. (Our meaning everyone going). But..... I have spoke with the person I booked with and this shouldn’t and isn’t going to be an issue. So, that’s where it is. I will suck it up, go hunt, and we will try to make the best out of it and still be happy to tag a deer regardless of size. I’m sure those corn and soybean eating deer up north taste much better than these east Texas deer. Lol


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What's ironic to me is you live in texas and want to come up this way whitetail hunting. Up here in pa alot of people want to go to texas whitetail hunting. Enjoy your hunt as much as you can. However you owe it to the outfitter to voice your issues. A squeaky wheel gets grease. Chalk it up as a lesson learned and get as much from the hunt as you can.
 
I don't use outfitters anymore because of stuff like this. Used a few when I was younger. Some are great - the other half are running a sh-- show. I'd rather do my homework, pay less money and hunt public land.

You won't get your money back - and these guys are probably already thinking you aren't a long term client - so yea...

I've been on one semi-guided whitetail hunt and in that case - a new batch of hunters showed up every week and hunted the same land as the hunters from the prior week. I think this is a pretty common practice. My point being you shouldn't be too surprised there are people hunting the 150-170 bucks prior to your arrival. That's pretty standard stuff. The fact that the person hunting them may be the guide might make you more upset - but again, it's not uncommon for deer like that to have a few folks out after them right out of the gate. I'd probably go and hunt - maintain a low profile in camp and see how it goes. And yes - your wife should have a crack at big deer just like the rest of you.
 
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