What to do....the GIF article

[cali_hornhunter]

So yesterday I was re reading articles on rokslide and I read the GIF one and at the end Aron talks about footwear and at the end he says "when in doubt swap them out."

This brings me to the current issue I'm having I currently run a pair of the Cabelas Meindl Alaska Gtx uninsulated ive had them for 2 years well I had some issues with my heel and feet just starting to get like really sore (mostly my heel) I bought some heel cup insoles and this year my feet were killing me by end of the day after hunting and would carry over into the morning the next day.

So what's everyone's thoughts should I try and buy some foot beds from lathrop and sons and see how that works or just go to a completely different boot and don't look back?

 

[justinspicher]

I would personally just get new boots, no sense on wasting time trying to make it work when you can just put that effort and money into a new pair. I would sell those ones that aren't working as well.

 

[Brock A]

Yeah boots are something you don't want to dick around with. Switch them up.

 

[cali_hornhunter]

Yeah boots are something you don't want to dick around with. Switch them up.

That's what I'm thinking myself. What boots are you currently using Brock A? My dad has a set of
Kenetreks and has nothing but good things to say. Any other recommendations? I've been looking at Lowa, Hanwag and maybe even some Salomans.

 

[Jason Snyder]

What kind of soreness are we talking? Hot spots, pressure points?

I have Lowa Baffins, Lowa Sheep Hunters (insulated), and Crispi Idahos. I really like them all, and each have their situations they shine in.

 

[Beastmode]

That's what I'm thinking myself. What boots are you currently using Brock A? My dad has a set of
Kenetreks and has nothing but good things to say. Any other recommendations? I've been looking at Lowa, Hanwag and maybe even some Salomans.

You can try on kenetreks at sportsmans wherehouse Tony. I tried them on and knew right away they didn't fit me. They do fit people I know and they live them. I would try them on and see how they feel. If the don't fit extremely good I would call lathrop and sons. They can have you trace your feet and send them pictures and they will get you in a good set of boots.

 

[Brock A]

That's what I'm thinking myself. What boots are you currently using Brock A? My dad has a set of
Kenetreks and has nothing but good things to say. Any other recommendations? I've been looking at Lowa, Hanwag and maybe even some Salomans.

I have the Salomon Quest 4D GTX for this year.

 

[jpolson]

So yesterday I was re reading articles on rokslide and I read the GIF one and at the end Aron talks about footwear and at the end he says "when in doubt swap them out."

This brings me to the current issue I'm having I currently run a pair of the Cabelas Meindl Alaska Gtx uninsulated ive had them for 2 years well I had some issues with my heel and feet just starting to get like really sore (mostly my heel) I bought some heel cup insoles and this year my feet were killing me by end of the day after hunting and would carry over into the morning the next day.

So what's everyone's thoughts should I try and buy some foot beds from lathrop and sons and see how that works or just go to a completely different boot and don't look back?

ooh...heel pain...obviously you should not blindly believe "some guy" on an internet forum...but I had similar problems that I thought I could cure with insoles...I was wrong...plantar fasciitis...it would feel like someone had been pounding on the bottom of my heel with a ball peen hammer...not a big deal, but I was constantly barking up the wrong tree with insoles.

#1 cause of heel pain.


The boots I was running at the time were not even close to stiff enough for the loads I was carrying (me+gear+load = 300lb). This is whay I am against a lot of these lightweight hunting boots out there. They are just not stiff enough to carry heavy loads on slopes.

A nice new pair of Zamberlan boots and proper stretching/excercise eventaully cured the issue.

Like I said before...look it up yourself, but I would bet that if you did a stretch, you would really feel it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantar_fasciitis

 

[Tiger Rag]

ooh...heel pain...obviously you should not blindly believe "some guy" on an internet forum...but I had similar problems that I thought I could cure with insoles...I was wrong...plantar fasciitis...it would feel like someone had been pounding on the bottom of my heel with a ball peen hammer...not a big deal, but I was constantly barking up the wrong tree with insoles.

#1 cause of heel pain.


The boots I was running at the time were not even close to stiff enough for the loads I was carrying (me+gear+load = 300lb). This is whay I am against a lot of these lightweight hunting boots out there. They are just not stiff enough to carry heavy loads on slopes.

A nice new pair of Zamberlan boots and proper stretching/excercise eventaully cured the issue.

Like I said before...look it up yourself, but I would bet that if you did a stretch, you would really feel it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantar_fasciitis

I pretty much agree with everything you've said here as I fight plantar fasciitis as well. I would add though that good set of insoles can indeed help however going to an orthopedic surgeon, podiatrist, or certified pedorthist can work wonders with orthotics or proper semi-custom insoles. Also working out in addition to the stretching seem to go hand in hand in everything physically working right.

 

[cali_hornhunter]

Thanks for all the comments but the pain can include the whole foot at times . In high school I had a case of Achilles tendonitis that was due to not having enough arch support and which was cause by not wearing footwear with enough arch support. Tiger rag your absolutely right about stretching and working out go hand in hand but I don't for see that being the issue as I am a active runner and also participate in crossfit. So maybe that could be my issue is not having enough arch support....

 

[Matt Cashell]

Man,

Sounds like PF to me, but I am no doctor.

The best advice I had for my PF was to treat it like the ligament tear it is and REST it.

I turned to cycling exclusively for cardio, until my foot was pain free.

I also used the Strassburg sock at night.

 

[Jason Snyder]

http://www.yoursole.com/us/mens/footbeds

Try these?

 

[Jason Snyder]

Man,

Sounds like PF to me, but I am no doctor.

The best advice I had for my PF was to treat it like the ligament tear it is and REST it.

I turned to cycling exclusively for cardio, until my foot was pain free.

I also used the Strassburg sock at night.

Given that it's localized to the heel, I think Matt is right. Given that you've had achilles issues before, I'd say it's highly likely.

PF is a biatch and can take a long time to heal correctly.

 

[Tiger Rag]

Thanks for all the comments but the pain can include the whole foot at times . In high school I had a case of Achilles tendonitis that was due to not having enough arch support and which was cause by not wearing footwear with enough arch support. Tiger rag your absolutely right about stretching and working out go hand in hand but I don't for see that being the issue as I am a active runner and also participate in crossfit. So maybe that could be my issue is not having enough arch support....

Didn't mean to insinuate you weren't active as most folks on here are to be able to conquer mountains in their quest for elk, sheep, etc. Maybe pointing a finger at myself as I know the stretching and working out in general seems to help everything health wise (and life) get better for me.

Anyway, I stopped running probably in my mid 30's (I'm mid 40's now) as the pounding was taking a toll on my knees and feet. I do more lifting, elliptical, stair climber, P90X, and hiking with the pack on my back for my fitness goals. I wasn't running with anything but stock insoles then so I think that was part of the problem for me especially with my overpronation. Anyway, just one man's experience. Might be time to try insoles or reduce the pounding. Good luck to you!

 

[cali_hornhunter]

Sorry tiger didn't mean to call you out like that I appreciate your input and everyone else's input on this thread. It might be PF I don't know it seems like I only have this issue when wearing these boots and humping it in the mtns, it might be just the boots I have no idea I've fought fire in the same country as I've hunted but wearing a pair of white smokejumpers and wearing a 40lb pack and have never had issues like I've experienced with my hunting boots for example so who knows maybe I should start testing different insoles, go see a doctor or just go out and buy new boots who knows....

 

[cbat]

My wife was having the same issues as you describe. She went to the Dr and after some testing it was determined that she had Sullivans syndrome. She had to get insoles made that cost over $ 500.00. The end result is she has slowly gotten better to the point her feet don't hurt all the time. Go see a doctor.

 

[Tiger Rag]

Sorry tiger didn't mean to call you out like that I appreciate your input and everyone else's input on this thread. It might be PF I don't know it seems like I only have this issue when wearing these boots and humping it in the mtns, it might be just the boots I have no idea I've fought fire in the same country as I've hunted but wearing a pair of white smokejumpers and wearing a 40lb pack and have never had issues like I've experienced with my hunting boots for example so who knows maybe I should start testing different insoles, go see a doctor or just go out and buy new boots who knows....

No worries at all. White's make one hell of a tough boot but I've heard others say they hurt their feet for hunting duty. I think they are pretty old school and honestly, I can't really wear my Norwegian welt construction boots (similar to white's) anymore, except for tooling around town or something. Just not enough support built into them. Not saying the White's are that way, I've not owned a pair - but damn, I love the looks of them! Any way, try and insole first, then maybe a different pair of boots, then maybe a doctor. I'll say this, when I first started wearing good insoles my whole body hurt - feet, knees, hips and back until my body figured out how to handle itself posture wise. My body had settled into my collapsed arches. I can now (with supportive boots/insoles) handle miles on my feet a ton better now than I used to be able to as well.

 

[Jason Snyder]

Sounds like a doctor visit might be in order. Plantar Fascitis is always the worst in the morning and also after sitting for a length of time. It will feel like a deep, stabbing pain in the heel, and can radiate downward into the arch at times.

Also, if you are an active runner and have a cavalier attitude towards stretching, you are a prime candidate for PF.

If, however, you are ONLY experiencing this in these boots it is something else. PF is a killer, every day, until you heal it.

 

[cali_hornhunter]

Little bit of an update I will be seeing the doctor come Wednesday so we'll see....

 

[Olydog09]

Little bit of an update I will be seeing the doctor come Wednesday so we'll see....

Good call on seeing the Dr. I have had the hardest time finding boots I could walk all day in the woods without it killing my feet, back, legs and just wiped out in general. I got a pair of Crispi Kanada's and they have been comfortable since day one. No problem putting on the miles day after day. I have heard others say the same about them. Now no boot will work if there is an issue with your feet. But you are doing things right by going to the Doctor first. When you do look at some new boots I would keep the Crispi's in mind. The bad part is they are hard to find on the shelf. I got lucky and they fit true to my foot straight out of the gate.