What is missing? Todays Hunting Films/Content

[Eastman528]

Cmon man, you asked.

Fair enough, I have been on here long enough to know what I was getting into

 

[Maverick1]

I don't know is that how it works?
Did I even say that in my original post?... Being a "Youtuber" is about the farthest thing from where my interest lies.
Yes I have uploaded a total of 1 hunting films to Youtube several years ago to make it easy to share with my grandparents of all things, my wife was 6 months pregnant at the time when she killed her first elk and now our daughter is 7 and thinks its pretty cool. I don't think at the time I even knew making money on YouTube was a thing, maybe I would have gotten in on it I dunno?!

I mean this post is literally in the Photography/Filming forum if everyone hates it so much then why waste your time trolling in here.

“Hate it so much”?
Did I even say that in my original reply?….

Asking what you are trying to get out of this whole thread?

Your original post asked “What type of films and content resonate with you as a hunter the most.” And then “There is still a spark there at times to film something but I would have to have real meaning and purpose to go through the effort.” (I’ll film it if it is something you would want to see.”)

Seems like when someone asks what is missing or what types of gaps are out there they are looking to fill those gaps. Is that what you are after?

 

[Szwampdonkey]

I watch ZERO hunting content on Youtube, none. I’d rather be hunting than watching some kid half my age hunt. Watching tv in general is a waste of time.

 

[kuiuaddict]

Don't make content to sell advertising

 

[idelkslayer]

So lets say hypothetically... someone made a hunting film that revolved around honoring their dad who passed away in a tragic accident, who was an avid hunter and had a huge impact on the person. That someone decides to share it because it might positively impact others outside of their immediate circle. They are obviously a narcissist, delusional and really just wanting to feed their inflated ego because nobody can have motives other than self promotion right?

Even in a situation like that there is an element of "look at me I'm special because life happened to me, but in a uniquely meaningful way that is different than everyone else, so let me tell you about it".

 

[IBen]

Online Forums, youtube, instagram, magazines, books, etc are all media. And if they are about Hunting then they are hunting media.

I find it funny how people can rack up 2000 posts on a forum (that promotes hunting) furthering the forums reach and revenue from ads but with those same fingers criticize another form of media that does the same thing.

 

[SDHNTR]

Online Forums, youtube, instagram, magazines, books, etc are all media. And if they are about Hunting then they are hunting media.

I find it funny how people can rack up 2000 posts on a forum (that promotes hunting) furthering the forums reach and revenue from ads but with those same fingers criticize another form of media that does the same thing.

Because it’s not the same thing.

 

[IBen]

Because it’s not the same thing.

Yes it is. Hunting media is hunting media and you are a consumer and producer of it mr 7,363.

 

[Alder_]

All that stupid bullshit should just go away and everyone who enjoys hunting would be the better for it.

Stop filming and being dbags. Just go hunt.

 

[Harronek]

I like shows that introduce you to different types of hunting/environments and the characters that they meet on that journey.
To many make it all about themselves. The ones that show you the little interactions along the way with random people and situations not directly associated with the “ kill “ are my favourites.
The “ hard sell “trap that many fall into in regards too merchandise/ sponsors etc wears thin in my opinion.
If you really like the show/ person then you will recognise and research the gear and equipment they are using .
It’s the more genuine and real world honest accounts of the hunt that get my attention……

 

[Hnthrdr]

So lets say hypothetically... someone made a hunting film that revolved around honoring their dad who passed away in a tragic accident, who was an avid hunter and had a huge impact on the person. That someone decides to share it because it might positively impact others outside of their immediate circle. They are obviously a narcissist, delusional and really just wanting to feed their inflated ego because nobody can have motives other than self promotion right?

Why does this have to be made or shared on the web? Is it helping that person grieve? What is the end goal? I have seen plenty of heart string type content. I used to consume a ton up until about 4 years ago when i realized me watching some shmuck hunt my state or neighboring states was actively making it harder on myself to draw tags. Also dead and dying animals should be somewhat of a personal thing and don’t need to be offered up to the World Wide Web for likes or adoration or sponsors or whatever… and yes I whole heartedly support hunt quietly… Matt has a hell of a backbone for speaking out about what mega social media is doing to our lifestyle.

 

[Hnthrdr]

Online Forums, youtube, instagram, magazines, books, etc are all media. And if they are about Hunting then they are hunting media.

I find it funny how people can rack up 2000 posts on a forum (that promotes hunting) furthering the forums reach and revenue from ads but with those same fingers criticize another form of media that does the same thing.

I somewhat agree… this is my only form of “social media” no insta or facebook or whatever. This forum or hunting forums in general (especially this one) which doesn’t promote spot burning seem less harmful than the rest, lots of gear testing/ talk caliber debates, tactics ect… pictures are shared among like minded individuals not blasted to the masses… buying and selling gear here is nice as well. But yes there is probably some detriment to even using this…

 

[IBen]

I somewhat agree… this is my only form of “social media” no insta or facebook or whatever. This forum or hunting forums in general (especially this one) which doesn’t promote spot burning seem less harmful than the rest, lots of gear testing/ talk caliber debates, tactics ect… pictures are shared among like minded individuals not blasted to the masses… buying and selling gear here is nice as well. But yes there is probably some detriment to even using this…

You can argue that rock slide has a higher “turnover rate” than yt or instagram.
I’m with you I don’t like it either but using social media to criticize another form of social media is hypocritical.
All of our posts at the end of the day are content and it’s content that people consume and advertisers advertise on the site just like they do YouTube.

This site is much more productive than scrolling for sure.

 

[SDHNTR]

Yes it is. Hunting media is hunting media and you are a consumer and producer of it mr 7,363.

Not even close. I know several dozen hunters, if not, triple digits. I can count the members here I know on one hand. Most have never even heard of Rokslide. Yet every one of them consumes some YT, FB/IG. How many active member are there here? I don’t even know, but it pales in comparison to Randy Newberg’s/Meateaters/goHunt et al’s millions upon millions of followers.

And no one here is telling their legions of followers how to apply in every western state, how to, where to, directly destroying odds for those who really put in the work. Not to mention the spot burning. Dude, it’s not even close to the same thing.

You are comparing a comic book to War and Peace.

 

[wapitibob]

Before you decide to post that youtube video, ask yourself one question; what's the upside?

I have no issue with posting hunts, I just watched a real nice one from Jordan Budd; It's the cringe worthy stuff that tends to baffle me. I've heard the "need to show it all as it happens" nonsense but it's just that, nonsense. Yea, things happen, there's just no need to publish it.

An example that will stick with me forever, what the hell was the point of showing this gawd awful cluster shag to the masses? If there's an upside to showing this to 135,000 people I'd sure like this guy to tell me what it was.

 

[IBen]

Not even close. I know several dozen hunters, if not, triple digits. I can count the members here I know on one hand. Most have never even heard of Rokslide. Yet every one of them consumes some YT, FB/IG. How many active member are there here? I don’t even know, but it pales in comparison to Randy Newberg’s/Meateaters/goHunt et al’s millions upon millions of followers.

And no one here is telling their legions of followers how to apply in every western state, how to, where to, directly destroying odds for those who really put in the work. Not to mention the spot burning. Dude, it’s not even close to the same thing.

You are comparing a comic book to War and Peace.

You’re missing the point.
Comic book and war and peace are both in the same category of media just different genres.
Don't really have much else to say about the issue just want you to be aware you are using social media (this forum) to criticize social media and I see it as hypocritical. Not as hypocritical as gohunt employees publicly complaining about overcrowding though

 

[woods89]

You’re missing the point.
Comic book and war and peace are both in the same category of media just different genres.
Don't really have much else to say about the issue just want you to be aware you are using social media (this forum) to criticize social media and I see it as hypocritical. Not as hypocritical as gohunt employees publicly complaining about overcrowding though

I mean, do you think it's hypocritical to use ibuprofen and be concerned about fentanyl? They're both just drugs, after all .......

 

[IBen]

I mean, do you think it's hypocritical to use one form of social media and be concerned about another form of social media? They're both just hunting media, after all .......

Fify.
did you update your Rokslide profle status today?

 

[Jake Larsen]

Fify.
did you update your Rokslide profle status today?

Technically they’re both forms of social media, that is true. That’s where the similarities end.

If you’re really trying to conflate Rokslide with YouTube hunting videos, you’ve lost me there. Can you truly make a good faith argument that a single Rokslide user has the same or similar impact as someone producing hunting films for YouTube?? A potential Rokslide poster and a potential YouTube creator could theoretically have the most pure individual motivations, and the impact would be very different. I don’t think anyone would have a problem with somebody who makes and posts a video for their own enjoyment, and the enjoyment of their friends. The problem is, we’ve learned to look at this content through a very different lens. Most people now understand the concept of the “Attention Economy”

The question was asked right at the beginning - “What’s missing, how do I make films that resonate with more people?” We’re reading that as - “How do I get more eyeballs? More engagement? And that’s the rub; because most people now understand that eyeballs = money. In the form of monetized videos, sponsors, ect. That’s why the motivations of any of these content creators immediately comes into question. WHY are they doing it?? The waters get muddied pretty fast. At what point are they leveraging public resources for their own interests, and the expense of the resource itself and the rest of us? The more eyeballs, attention, engagement they get on their content, the more money they make, and the more pressure they put on the resource as a result.

Personally, I can watch a cool video and enjoy it, while also recognizing that the platform is an overall net negative


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[woods89]

Fify.
did you update your Rokslide profle status today?

Isn't this kind of dodging the question?