What does your state do for landowners and licenses/tags?

[Schaaf]

Montana has had Landowner Preference for Deer and Elk since 1973 and sets aside 15% of the permit quota for Landowners. Tags are valid Unit Wide and non transferrable.

For Elk eligibility, you need 640 contiguous acres or more with land that elk use.

For Deer eligibility you need 160 acres and needs to be primarily used for agriculture.

 

[svivian]

Nothing. And that’s the way it should be.

What state?

 

[Erict]

New York issues unlimited NR OTC hunting licenses (license = big game & small game). Everyone pays extra $$ for things like Archery, Muzzleloader, Turkey. Non-residents pay a bit more, but still a deal. For $180, a NR could shoot a buck during Archery, another during the later Gun or late Muzzleloader/Archery, an antlerless deer during either, 1 black bear and 3 turkey (1 Fall, 2 Spring). Fishing and Trapping extra.

The Deer Management Permit ("antlerless only") is the only "restricted draw". Resident and Non-Resident Landowners are treated equally - own 50 or more contiguous acres in any WMU and you get priority. Not only that, but such landowners can use this preference to draw a tag in any WMU, not just the one they own land in. There is no way to buy Preference Points in this draw - you earn one if you don't draw.

This is the order used only for DMPs:

1. Landowners and Disabled Veterans
2. NYS residents and non-residents with 3 or more preference points.
3. Residents with 2 preference points.
4. Residents with 1 preference points.
5. Residents with 0 preference points.
6. Non-residents with 2 preference points.
7. Non-residents with 1 preference points.
8. Non-residents with 0 preference points.

(For reference, in 2021, there were an estimated 588,000 licensed hunters and a total deer take of 211,000)

 

[pirogue]

Arkansas: A landowner, who pays property taxes, but is considered a Non Resident, has to buy a NR hunting license. It gets worse. Their Turkey population has been declining, and it is a well known fact that it is due to predators, and they still require the NR landowners to also buy a NR Trapping license. And the cost of a NR trapping license hasn’t decreased any, to reflect the tanking of the fur market prices.

 

[Crusader]

Missouri gives free turkey (spring and fall) and deer (firearms and archery) permits to resident landowners of 20 contiguous acres or more; additional tags given for owners of 75 acres or more. Non-resident landowners of 75 acres or more of contiguous land get reduced-cost permits.

 

[MattB]

CA has a program called the Private Lands Management program that allows landowner to get tags in exchange for doing certain habitat improvements that benefit wildlife, typically under a 5-year plan. Tags are only good on the property enrolled in the program.

It is a bit expensive and time-consuming for the LO and the way the program has developed over time it has become inequitable in some regards (early entrants have advantages over more recent entrants), but over-all seems well thought out in concept.

 

[Hnthrdr]

Simple. No landowner tags in AZ.

When I found out my wife’s fam had an 800 acre ranch with water and that I could have access to about every other ranch around Kirkland… then found out AZ doesn’t do landowner vouchers… what a kick in the nuts

 

[Danny Hoey]

Washington takes you dry, no lube......

 

[cuerro viejo]

no resident status preference on draws tags, PP is name in the hat #’s.

No resident preference on OTC Public hunting.

draw tags dont count toward OTC license tags.

no license requirement to enter draw.

private LO tags( LO resident status is irrelevant) are by biologist survey in relation to carrying capacity and herd dynamics. Seen has high as 90 tags in high density areas. one person could use all of them, if wanted. Also LO/MLD program comes with a 4 month season for WT, 3 month for MD.

resident and no resident have same tags on OTC license:
5 Whitetails
2 mule deer
4 turkeys
upland

 

[WCB]

Minnesota only allows a landowner to obtain 1 extra antlerless tag. It is free. Straight from the MNDNR:

These free licenses allow the taking of one additional antlerless deer in hunters choice, managed, intensive and unlimited antlerless deer areas. Landowner licenses are valid during any open season; however, the landowner must use the appropriate weapon for that season and adhere to blaze orange/pink restrictions.

Landowners who obtain this license must own at least 80 acres of agricultural or grazing land and allow public deer hunting on that land during the deer hunting season, except for the first Saturday and Sunday of the season.

People who wish to hunt on these lands must obtain permission from the landowner, and it is up to the landowner to determine how much public hunting is appropriate.

It is followed up with a list of landowners that obtained the license by name, address. Last year there were a total of 158.

 

[esorekim05]

The degree of preference given to landowners feels unfair. At minimum for preferential tags there should be a requirement to allow access to the public in exchange. They own the land, not the deer/elk/etc.

 

[SuperDUECE22]

The degree of preference given to landowners feels unfair

Safe to assume you're not a landowner ?

 

[esorekim05]

Safe to assume you're not a landowner ?

Correct, due to the results of the birth lottery. Since someone was born into land they should get to shoot a deer every year but because my dad was a laborer I have to wait every 5 years for a tag?

 

[Steve300xcw]

wow

Are people not allowed to buy land anymore?

 

[esorekim05]

wow

Are people not allowed to buy land anymore?

How many people can afford to buy land? Currently ~ $5-10k per acre where I grew up. Most land is inherited and those who can afford to buy land are those who inherited land. See how many people become farmers who were not born into it? Almost no one.

 

[Steve300xcw]

No idea about your area. Might as well give up though, sounds like you were whipped before you ever tried.

 

[Hnthrdr]

How many people can afford to buy land? Currently ~ $5-10k per acre where I grew up. Most land is inherited and those who can afford to buy land are those who inherited land. See how many people become farmers who were not born into it? Almost no one.

Live in a family that has 7th generation land owners on one side… the other side created businesses and now owns more land the pioneering side… it’s not impossible to just go buy land, people do it all the time

 

[SuperDUECE22]

Correct, due to the results of the birth lottery. Since someone was born into land they should get to shoot a deer every year but because my dad was a laborer I have to wait every 5 years for a tag?

You’re right some folks are born into land. But plenty of us weren’t. We earned it the hard way. Blaming the birth lottery doesn’t change the fact that opportunity still exists, it just takes work most won't do, risk most won't take and a never say no attitude. No reason to be resentful

 

[wind gypsy]

The degree of preference given to landowners feels unfair. At minimum for preferential tags there should be a requirement to allow access to the public in exchange. They own the land, not the deer/elk/etc.

In some cases I'd agree with you and some I'd strongly disagree but would prefer to use "reasonable" rather than "fair". Life aint fair. There is a balance. If we want people to be good stewards of habitat and the public's wildlife on their private lands, throwing them a carrot occasionally is nice.

 

[Steve300xcw]

How many people can afford to buy land? Currently ~ $5-10k per acre where I grew up. Most land is inherited and those who can afford to buy land are those who inherited land. See how many people become farmers who were not born into it? Almost no one.

You sure got quiet. Why not bang on your old man a bit more for not providing you a place to hunt?

You don't still live with him do you?