What did you do at the range today?

[justinspicher]

Yesterday I worked on shooting off my tripod while standing. Shot at 174, 325, and 485 yards.

Shooting went well, everything felt good. Now I’ll have to add par time to see if I’m actually doing everything efficiently.

 

[justinspicher]

Today was a high angle day. It was a chore to get up high, but very much worth it. We shot between 225-600yds at angles between 6-18°. Gotta trust that bubble level.

 

[CMcCormick1805]

Confirmed zero on my 7PRC for the upcoming bear season. Gun shoots lights out as usual.

Shot the .223 trainer on steel 200-600 yards with first shot impacts using hold overs. Did a 21 dot drill that revealed some weak points in my shooting off a tripod. I ran about 80 rounds through the rifle if I include some zeroing and groups I shot for the fun of it.

Tested scope rings from Arken on both my trainer and a 7PRC used by a buddy.

Shot my first shots through my new Trijicon Credo HX 2.5-15x42 Needless to say I may finally have a scope I absolutely love.

Helped another buddy with load development and found that the cheap Franklin armory scale does suck. I suspect this resulted in wildly inconsistent velocities and poor group size in a 6 shot group out of a 6.5 PRC.

 

[wyosam]

Shot a quick ladder in my 223-ran out of TAC so switched to H4895 because I have a bunch. Also rechecked zero on a couple rifles that were in the trunk of my car and I threw a 50 pound bag of dog food on top of them. Black soft cases in a black trunk, and I usually take my truck to the range but the price of diesel has it parked unless I need it. Tikkas with sportsmatch rings, on SWFA 3-15 and one Credo 2-10x36. No issues, both still right on the money.


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[waspocrew]

I have two 22 Creedmoors with thermal scopes that I needed to verify zero with (one shooting 77 TMK and the other 62 ELDVT). Grabbed my plastic ammo boxes and hit the range. First rifle was zeroed in just a few shots. Went to zero the other rifle and when I opened the ammo box, I realized I had grabbed my 6 ARC ammo instead of the 22 Creedmoor.

Didn't have time (nor did I really want to) rush home and grab the other box. I'll hit it again soon!

 

[Nicaburns]

Shot my first shots through my new Trijicon Credo HX 2.5-15x42 Needless to say I may finally have a scope I absolutely love.

I’m shooting the MRAD version but agree 100%

 

[coyotekilla]

Banged some paper at 100, then steel at 500 with my tikka upr 6.5cm. It shoots pretty well.

 

[CMcCormick1805]

Sighted in some Red Dots. One on a Shadow Systems 9mm and the other on a Ruger Mark 4. Nothing of note other than that I was impressed with the new Vortex Venom 3MOA Enclosed red dot. Shooting it side by side with the Leupold Delta Point Pro (my current favorite) reminds me why I love the bigger window.

The Venom gives off Holosun EPS Carry vibes. It feels cheap but so does every other pistol dot in my opinion. I feel it’s a good fit for a pinking .22 like my Mark 4. I wouldn’t say it runs in the same class as the RMR and Acro but it’s a pleasure to shoot with. Zeroing was quick. Vortex provided a handy print out with what each click did at varied distances.

I’m looking forward to shooting more with the Venom. I am sure I’ll be using the warranty but there’s always a chance I’ll be surprised.

 

[Chris in TN]

Post-op checkup today. Doc says all is well and I can resume normal activities, including moderate recoil.

That box of Scheel's bulk packed .22lr showed up, too, about ten minutes before I finished work for the day. I didn't even open the actual box the ammo was in - once I got inside the shipping box, maybe 80 rounds had fell out of the actual ammo box. I just grabbed those and headed for the bench.

@43.6N mentioned it on page 21. I had put both .22lr cans in to clean the baffles this morning. I checked them - one set of baffles was clean, the others had locked together while tumbling and two of the baffles were still terrible. I put those back in and decided to just run a quick test swapping the can with clean baffles between rifles.

First item: I reassembled the can wet, so I ran maybe 20 rounds through it to dry it out, without checking chronograph. Then I fired 30 rounds over the labradar with the 24" cz457. These were all shot at steel at 225 yards. They hit ~3-4moa higher than CCI SV. Not shooting groups, just plinking on a very windy afternoon.

I then swapped the can (Spectre II) over to the 16" barreled 457. Fired 15 rounds over the chrono. Then I switched angles to my 40-yard target and shot a 10-shot group with the 16" at 40 yards. Didn't shift the chronograph to record any further data. Then I switched the can back to the 24" 457 and also fired a ten round group with it at 40 yards.

Chrono data:



Now here's the weird part.

The short barreled 457 10-shot group is on the left of the image below - more or less in the big green 2" dot. The long barreled gun group is on the right.

I've never fired a worse group with the 16" gun. Ever. It normally shoots almost but not quite as well as the other one. It's possible the can was loose. Or maybe it's me. Or maybe the gun doesn't like this ammo. Who knows?

Conversely, the group shown from the 24" gun, high on the right, is one of the better groups it's ever fired. Better than what I'd expect from CCI SV and right in line with what I'd expect from Eley Target, as @43.6N mentioned. That's the most expensive stuff I've ever bought and it generally isn't worth it *to me*.

*shrug*

I'd buy more of this ammo just based on the SD/ES. I wish it was a hair slower. I'll still buy.

The big green dot is 2":

 

[43.6N]

Post-op checkup today. Doc says all is well and I can resume normal activities, including moderate recoil.

That box of Scheel's bulk packed .22lr showed up, too, about ten minutes before I finished work for the day. I didn't even open the actual box the ammo was in - once I got inside the shipping box, maybe 80 rounds had fell out of the actual ammo box. I just grabbed those and headed for the bench.

@43.6N mentioned it on page 21. I had put both .22lr cans in to clean the baffles this morning. I checked them - one set of baffles was clean, the others had locked together while tumbling and two of the baffles were still terrible. I put those back in and decided to just run a quick test swapping the can with clean baffles between rifles.

First item: I reassembled the can wet, so I ran maybe 20 rounds through it to dry it out, without checking chronograph. Then I fired 30 rounds over the labradar with the 24" cz457. These were all shot at steel at 225 yards. They hit ~3-4moa higher than CCI SV. Not shooting groups, just plinking on a very windy afternoon.

I then swapped the can (Spectre II) over to the 16" barreled 457. Fired 15 rounds over the chrono. Then I switched angles to my 40-yard target and shot a 10-shot group with the 16" at 40 yards. Didn't shift the chronograph to record any further data. Then I switched the can back to the 24" 457 and also fired a ten round group with it at 40 yards.

Chrono data:

View attachment 1049551

Now here's the weird part.

The short barreled 457 10-shot group is on the left of the image below - more or less in the big green 2" dot. The long barreled gun group is on the right.

I've never fired a worse group with the 16" gun. Ever. It normally shoots almost but not quite as well as the other one. It's possible the can was loose. Or maybe it's me. Or maybe the gun doesn't like this ammo. Who knows?

Conversely, the group shown from the 24" gun, high on the right, is one of the better groups it's ever fired. Better than what I'd expect from CCI SV and right in line with what I'd expect from Eley Target, as @43.6N mentioned. That's the most expensive stuff I've ever bought and it generally isn't worth it *to me*.

*shrug*

I'd buy more of this ammo just based on the SD/ES. I wish it was a hair slower. I'll still buy.

The big green dot is 2":
View attachment 1049570

Super interesting the difference between the two guns.
And the 16” measured faster than the 24” if I’m reading your numbers right?

Here’s my gun today shooting Eley target yellow box vs the Federal-Scheels 1902
20” cz457
My chrono velocity matches yours.
50yds
1” squares

 

[NWBLKTAIL]

Got out today and did some brass collecting for my dad’s 308win stock roughtech with a reaper on the end. 178eldx propelled by TAC in virgin Starline.



I yanked the shit out of the trigger on the low right one, a good reminder that some times I just suck.

Then shot some 7mm08, had 25 rounds left of virgin brass loaded with 162eldm and Xbr. Shot those up and then confirmed zero with my 162eldm SB 6.5 load. And sent 15 rounds out to 506yds off the pack.

I could tell by the reaction of the steel plate in the scope I was hitting high and dialed down .1 mil and sent another 9. Light wind 1/2 mil wind hold. 6X Swfa.

 

[hoooogan]

Took the new-to-me Aero M5 straight from the FFL to the range. Threw down 50 rounds of the Midway Lapua overrun 167gr 308. Ammo had pretty solid numbers on the chrono. After more or less sighting in, she put down ~1.5 MOA 10 shot group. Not too shabby considering the LPVO was very low in medium rings and I forgot my rear bag. I was swaying all over the place. Can't wait to get back with a better setup.

 

[Chris in TN]

Super interesting the difference between the two guns.
And the 16” measured faster than the 24” if I’m reading your numbers right?

Yes. The speed difference is typical for long-barreled guns. Once you get past maybe 18" or so (I have no way to know the exact predicted length) all the powder is burned and the expanding gases are adding less speed to the bullet than bore friction is subtracting. Or, it gets slower.

I shot some of it over the chronograph with my 27" 513T just now. Fifteen shots went 1040-1100 average 1081.5'.

(ETA: And 10 shots from the 513T after sunset at 40 yards with peep sights, went into 1.8", which is about as good as I get in low light. Better than the short 457 did).


As for why the two guns shot different....there's things that'll make a combo shoot artifically bad, not many things that'll make one shoot artificially good, so I suspect some quirk with the 16" gun. I'll figure that out when its can baffles are clean.

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[justinspicher]

I didn’t shoot today, but I cleaned up my range. I also moved a piece of steel and looked at a few places to put some new steel.

 

[43.6N]

Yes. The speed difference is typical for long-barreled guns. Once you get past maybe 18" or so (I have no way to know the exact predicted length) all the powder is burned and the expanding gases are adding less speed to the bullet than bore friction is subtracting. Or, it gets slower.

I shot some of it over the chronograph with my 27" 513T just now. Fifteen shots went 1040-1100 average 1081.5'.

(ETA: And 10 shots from the 513T after sunset at 40 yards with peep sights, went into 1.8", which is about as good as I get in low light. Better than the short 457 did).


As for why the two guns shot different....there's things that'll make a combo shoot artifically bad, not many things that'll make one shoot artificially good, so I suspect some quirk with the 16" gun. I'll figure that out when its can baffles are clean.

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I’m tracking.
Congrats on the successful eye surgery BTW
That’s got to be the best feeling

 

[Matt5266]

All this week im out at our range instructing classes. In between I'm getting to shoot quite a bit of handgun and AR. Doesn't usually happen that way but so far so good.

 

[JohnJohnson]

I put 120 rounds through my new Springfield Kuna today as well as another 300 rounds through the Sig P211. I just got the Kuna but I already put the short stroke buffer kit in it and switched the polymer backplate for an aluminum one. The recoil was very tame and I didn't feel any concussion at all while shooting it.



The P211 is now on 1,000 rounds and it's been flawless for the last 955 rounds after 3 FTRBs in the first 45 rounds during the break-in. Trying out some Mag-Mo edge grips for it right now and they certainly work well.



And I'm still waiting another 4-6 weeks for my CZ Shadow to finish getting Cajunized. I predict my 9mm ammo budget is going to balloon.

 

[Chris in TN]

Another group with the short CZ. It’s a 457 pro varmint, fwiw. Meopta 2-10pa. I only mention the scope because I butterfingered it this morning and it landed on my bench pretty firmly. Didn’t budge. Poi same as yesterday.

So, this is 15 shots with the rifle’s usual can (DAM). I suspect this ammo is just going to do what I expect cheap ammo to do - have fliers. For the price I can happily live with it. I’ve seen individual lots of CCI SV do the same. 1.5” outside but 12/15 in 0.75” at 40 yards. I’m buying another brick while it’s available.

Also, in fairness, shooting groups with the loose rounds that fell out of the box, might not have been the fairest way to assess ammo.

 

[ColPenguin]

I have a bunch of 140 grain FMJ Aguila 6.5 CDMR from when ammo was kind of hard to find. It shoots terrible.

I pulled bullets and weighed the charges to try and troubleshoot it. It was some type of ball powder, and it was between 41.2 - 41.6 grains. So whatever the problem, it's not the powder charge.

When I have decapped these cases, the flash holes are off center and primer pockets are crimped. I have no desire to fuss with the brass after shooting through these.

The bullets have open hole in base where lead was poured into the jacket. The bearing surface on the bullets was all scratched up. So maybe it's either a really crappy soft alloy, or neck tension is just too tight?

After just pulling bullets and reseating this group seemingly tightened up. I didn't take a control group to the range with me today to compare though. As far as I can tell, past problems, are likely some inconsistency with their neck tension or seating.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I made it to the range for three days in a row this week, but none of the sessions was as long as I wanted.

Tuesday, I drove to my old SOT to pick up the Unknown Suppressors OG Prototype 6mm suppressor I got on Black Friday. I forgot my wallet, so I got to drive all the way back home and repeat the trip. On the way back, I stopped off at the range to sight in the stainless Tikka T3X .243 on which it is going to live.

It shoots well and sounds very nice. About like an OG 6.5.

After that, I shot steel with the Tikka T3 at 300 yards. I am focusing hard on drills going from all gear on, rifle in condition 1, scope zeroed out, to building a position and shooting prone over pack or bipod or seated over bipod.

Wednesday, I took the .243 back to the range and used it for positional drills, adding in the timer. I find it very tough to get more than one good shot off in 20 seconds. I am using the .243 for this because I want to get some rounds down the barrel before I start working up a load. And the Hornady factory ammo I have is very mild. It doesn’t shoot insanely well, so I have no reason to save it, but well enough to use for this purpose. And I hope to have the time to test and reload a pile of 116-grain TMKs this weekend.

Today, I shot the Tikka T3 with some of the Frontier 5.56, using the AB Raptor 10 and my new Airlock Nano.

I really like the Nano, but the mirage builds up very quickly and it gets very hot.