Victory RIP TKO vs Black Eagle Rampage questions

[ChuckC]

Got a new bow and I’m a hair under spined with Pro Hunter 340’s with 50 extra grains up front. I’ve settled in on these 2 arrows. Any comparisons or great luck with either?

 

[Samdemarais]

Lots of people like the rampage arrows. I don’t think too many are fan of the halfout insert they come with. Probably better to upgrade to the focos system or iron will components.

 

[Zac]

I agree with Rampages with IW components. Your going to prbably see better consistency with the Rampages, however the Victories will be more durable. Victory is not a bad arrow, they just bug me with their bogus spine lines. They are also inconsistent batch to batch. If you are running Ethics components, you will end up sanding one batch and not on another. I believe they are made in Mexico out of the same plant as Gold Tip.

 

[Planopurist]

I wouldn’t ignore the Gold Tip Airstrikes or Quantum.


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[Trial153]

I built a bunch of both these. Both great arrows. I don't see much difference in either of them.
Always use hits and and collars, never half outs.

 

[drmatara]

I'm a fan of Rampage arrows because of the consistency, but when it comes to Victory, even though it's durable, I can't say much about the consistency.

 

[nphunter]

I've had great luck with the RIP TKO Elites, with zero consistency issues. I haven't built any yet that I couldn't put a half dozen in the 7" center circle of my NASP field target at 100 yards if I do my part. Not sure what else a person could ask for out of an arrow, very durable, great finish on the arrow, pull well from targets and fly as good as any arrow I've ever shot.

I do run IW components in all of my .204 builds.

I prefer the RIP TKO over the Axis Match grade by a landslide. I've never shot black eagles .204's but have shot the deep impact and I have had some brooming issues with those, they seemed very brittle compared to the Injexions and VAP's I shot prior.

 

[Trial153]

Interesting about the consistency issues. I haven't built many, maybe 6 or 8 dozen or so RIPs, all elites. And then been fantastic both coming off the RAM tester and with stfaightness. I have yet to cut any run out off a back end.
Honestly I can say the same for Rampages they been excellent as well.

 

[5MilesBack]

I tried the Rampages a few years ago and they seemed brittle compared to other .204" arrows. I recently have tried the RIP TKO Elite 250's and the Sirius Apollo's just because they are a weaved carbon. I haven't had either long enough to determine their durability or long term consistency but so far I like both. I'm using 75gr HIT's in both of them, but also tried a couple of the TKO's with 100gr Ethics and 125's. I wish Victory made a RIP TKO 200, then I wouldn't have to add so much weight up front to get the arrows to the weight I want. I was impressed with their weight consistency, it was identical for all 13 arrows after cutting and squaring.

 

[5MilesBack]

Victory is not a bad arrow, they just bug me with their bogus spine lines.

What are their "spine lines"?

 

[Zac]

What are their "spine lines"?

Victory has a visible line that runs through the word Victory on the shaft. This is supposed to be the stiff side of the shaft.

 

[marktole]

I had shot through 2-3 dozen Rampages a few years ago and then switched to the VAP TKO (micro diameter version of the arrow you’re asking about) about a year ago.

Far prefer the VAP TKO. Much more durable than the rampage in my experience. I’d imagine the RIP TKO is pretty durable too. Have had no issues with consistency that others have mentioned.

 

[ia bhtr]

I've had great luck with the RIP TKO Elites, with zero consistency issues. I haven't built any yet that I couldn't put a half dozen in the 7" center circle of my NASP field target at 100 yards if I do my part. Not sure what else a person could ask for out of an arrow, very durable, great finish on the arrow, pull well from targets and fly as good as any arrow I've ever shot.

I do run IW components in all of my .204 builds.

I prefer the RIP TKO over the Axis Match grade by a landslide. I've never shot black eagles .204's but have shot the deep impact and I have had some brooming issues with those, they seemed very brittle compared to the Injexions and VAP's I shot prior.

Hey np , this thread fits perfectly with what I am in the midst of right now , set up with Axis and was thinking of a switch to one of the 2 arrows mentioned by the op , soooooooooo I have had good luck with my Axis , what have you found to make them inferior to the RIPs ?? that actually is the shaft I am leaning towards

also some of you have mentioned using HIT inserts , that would be the Easton ones ... correct ??

Thanks for any replies >>====>

OK , never mind on the HITS , guessing you were talking IWs

 

[nphunter]

I didn't really have an issue with the Axis but after a year of shooting them, they looked like old used arrows. All of the glossy finish wore off, paint on 3D targets left marks on them, decals were worn off and smeared. Also if I get a tiny nick in an axis and flex it they snap. The weaved carbon seems to hold up better and longer, I've had similar nicks in the Victories pass a flex test that would easily snap an axis. Nothing wrong that affected the performance of the arrow though, just mostly cosmetic or durability.

However, my older RIP TKO's that had been shot twice as much as the Axis still look as good as when I built them in 2019. Nothing scientific just my opinion on how they were holding up for me.

 

[5MilesBack]

Victory has a visible line that runs through the word Victory on the shaft. This is supposed to be the stiff side of the shaft.

I've never heard that or even bothered to look.

 

[Zac]

I've never heard that or even bothered to look.

Been living under a rock

 

[5MilesBack]

Been living under a rock

I went back and looked at the Victory arrows I have, and the Vforce and HV's don't have anything like that on them. My new TKO's just say "spine aligned" which I look at as a marketing slogan.

 

[Zac]

White line

 

[Page Master]

Rampages are quite a bit cheaper aren't they? I like their stock components better than victory as well. If you are buying ethics or IW components, you're off cheaper with the rampage.

the weaved carbon is slick though.

 

[5MilesBack]

White line

None of mine have a white line. But the "spine aligned" arrow could be the equivalent of their white line??? My Vforce and HV's all just have 5 yellow lines running from each end of the Victory label. The funny thing is, these TKO's came from Jerry (SSAS) and he marks the stiff side on all the arrows he sells, and those marks don't match the spine aligned mark. And when nock tuning......it's possible where they tune best will match neither of those.