Valkyrie substitute

[Zac]

Tuff head is making a 200, and 300 grain S7 tool steel 3 blade that has been flight tested at speeds of 500 fps. This looks like a great alternative to Valkyrie if you are not into running a micro diameter shaft.

 

[Beendare]

Do those have a center point on the tip you can spin them on?

Over $35 each....they better be good.

 

[Zac]

Do those have a center point on the tip you can spin them on?

Over $35 each....they better be good.

Not sure what you mean. They are S7 cerakoted and machined out of a single block of steel. Bishop charges 66 dollars a head for their equivalent. I pay 35 a piece for my 100 grain Ironwills, I think they are priced very competitively.

 

[Iron Willhite]

These look legit...I'd be very curious to hear feedback on the 3-blades after some use...the 2-blades look like Cutthroats.

Although, I'm fairly confident you can still run any of the Blood Eagles from Valkyrie without using micro-diameter arrows? https://valkyriearchery.com/shop/bloodeagles/
-these are $75 for 3...so 25/broadhead, which is quite a bit less than the Jaggers at $125 for 3. Also cheaper it would seem than the Tuffheads if they're $35/piece.

^this is what I've been leaning towards for my next arrow build...LOVE the Valkryie 3-blade and how they fly...Just a pricey broadhead for the original Jagger heads...definitely going to look into these Tuffheads though.

 

[Zac]

These look legit...I'd be very curious to hear feedback on the 3-blades after some use...the 2-blades look like Cutthroats.

Although, I'm fairly confident you can still run any of the Blood Eagles from Valkyrie without using micro-diameter arrows? https://valkyriearchery.com/shop/bloodeagles/
-these are $75 for 3...so 25/broadhead, which is quite a bit less than the Jaggers at $125 for 3. Also cheaper it would seem than the Tuffheads if they're $35/piece.

^this is what I've been leaning towards for my next arrow build...LOVE the Valkryie 3-blade and how they fly...Just a pricey broadhead for the original Jagger heads...definitely going to look into these Tuffheads though.

You can still use Blood Eagles as usual. This is just another option. The Lethal Podcast said they tested the 3 blades at 500 fps out of crossbows, and the accuracy was exceptional at long distances.

 

[Iron Willhite]

You can still use Blood Eagles as usual. This is just another option. The Lethal Podcast said they tested the 3 blades at 500 fps out of crossbows, and the accuracy was exceptional at long distances.

That's awesome. Did you/the podcast mention when they thought they'd be available for purchase? I definitely intend to check out that podcast as well...good info! 500fps is MOVIN'...I know bolts are stouter in spine flex than regular arrows...would be curious to see what kind of flex a bolt has, if any, at that high of speed with a 200gr head on it. Wish they made a 250...that was the sweet spot on my Jaggers...planning to 'up' my component weight and go for 200gr Broadheads instead of 250.

Also, at that speed...I can imagine they blew through SEVERAL targets/layers with such a broadhead!

 

[Vandal 44]

I really like the Valkyrie Blood Eagle heads, once I got them dialed in the my bow. I shot two deer this year with the same arrow and Blood Eagle combo. I just cleaned the arrow and touched up the Blood Eagle head and it was good to go.

I use the Blood Eagle with Victory RIP arrows. It will take one hell of a broadhead to make me switch, with that said these heads look very stout

 

[Zac]

That's awesome. Did you/the podcast mention when they thought they'd be available for purchase? I definitely intend to check out that podcast as well...good info! 500fps is MOVIN'...I know bolts are stouter in spine flex than regular arrows...would be curious to see what kind of flex a bolt has, if any, at that high of speed with a 200gr head on it. Wish they made a 250...that was the sweet spot on my Jaggers...planning to 'up' my component weight and go for 200gr Broadheads instead of 250.

Also, at that speed...I can imagine they blew through SEVERAL targets/layers with such a broadhead!

Should be able to preorder them now. If you look at the ferrule, it has some scoops on it, these are similar to the. Ahnillator design and are supposed to stabilize the head at extreme speeds.

 

[Zac]

I'm listening to Lethal Podcast | Ep. 074 - Evolution Series TUFFHEAD on Podbean, check it out! https://www.podbean.com/ea/dir-7dt23-c958135
Here's the podcast if anyone is interested.

 

[TristanJH]

RMS Gear's Cutthroat BH's look like a pretty solid alternative too. Valkyrie's center pin will always be stronger than the standard thread, but you can definitely get close, and I think the most valuable parts of the valkyrie system are the high BC, high FOC, and Great penetration & low deflection.

I think a good nano-diameter arrow with the ethics outsert and a solid BH with total point weight in the 200-300 grain range, you'll be sitting real pretty.

 

[Zac]

RMS Gear's Cutthroat BH's look like a pretty solid alternative too. Valkyrie's center pin will always be stronger than the standard thread, but you can definitely get close, and I think the most valuable parts of the valkyrie system are the high BC, high FOC, and Great penetration & low deflection.

I think a good nano-diameter arrow with the ethics outsert and a solid BH with total point weight in the 200-300 grain range, you'll be sitting real pretty.

I agree that Valkyrie has the most durable system. The new Snyder Core system from Iron Will is basically the same thing. I think the Tuff Head mostly applies to guys that are shooting .204s or standard diameter shafts.

 

[cured_ham]

IMO the reason to run the Valkyrie systems is to allow for micro (4mm) shafts. The only other component system I would consider for 4mm is the new Snydercore.

For 5mm and larger there are so many good options with components and heads that you can get away with a lot.