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The raptor 4 is 1/2” longer past the muzzle compared to the OG and sounds almost identical on a 22” 6.5 prc . Add the 6.5 end cap and the raptor likely sounds better . The only real advantage the OG has vs the raptor 4 is maybe extra durability since it’s 3d printed . But I haven’t seen any raptor failures …Apparently it does bear repeating, since people seem to think - or have outright stated - that US/UM mislead, misrepresented, or lied about the OG and its abilities. Hell, there’s one person here who says that US/UM straight up lied about the suppression rating, another says the new can is the “OG 2.0,” and another who has accused US/UM of using customers to “beta test” their cans.
None of those things is true.
Pointing out that the people who promoted the OG from December 2024 to June 2024 clearly stated what it would be, what it would not be, and delivered exactly that is just setting the record straight. At no point did anyone suggest that the OG was the “can for everyone” and would make everyone happy.
I do find it funny to argue about this, because the OG is not what I thought I wanted back in May and June. I wanted the OG to be the Reaper or a 3d-printed, one-piece AB Raptor 8 w/2” reflex. And I argued at length that it should be that. But when I compared it with the alternative 4” cans available at the time (basically the AB Raptor 2 w/ 4” reflex or the 4 w/ 3” reflex) I decided I liked it better.
I don’t “love” any of my suppressors. They are all compromises. But to argue that US/UM owes consumers a refund, money back, or whatever is ridiculous [unless someone proves that they did actually misrepresent everything above].
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You do realize the irony of the fact you were the same person a month or so ago making the same claims that the DB was not accurate as your ears were ringing? And you would not let it go for pages.....Apparently it does bear repeating, since people seem to think - or have outright stated - that US/UM mislead, misrepresented, or lied about the OG and its abilities. Hell, there’s one person here who says that US/UM straight up lied about the suppression rating, another says the new can is the “OG 2.0,” and another who has accused US/UM of using customers to “beta test” their cans.
None of those things is true.
Pointing out that the people who promoted the OG from December 2024 to June 2024 clearly stated what it would be, what it would not be, and delivered exactly that is just setting the record straight. At no point did anyone suggest that the OG was the “can for everyone” and would make everyone happy.
I do find it funny to argue about this, because the OG is not what I thought I wanted back in May and June. I wanted the OG to be the Reaper or a 3d-printed, one-piece AB Raptor 8 w/2” reflex. And I argued at length that it should be that. But when I compared it with the alternative 4” cans available at the time (basically the AB Raptor 2 w/ 4” reflex or the 4 w/ 3” reflex) I decided I liked it better.
I don’t “love” any of my suppressors. They are all compromises. But to argue that US/UM owes consumers a refund, money back, or whatever is ridiculous [unless someone proves that they did actually misrepresent everything above].
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You do realize the irony of the fact you were the same person a month or so ago making the same claims that the DB was not accurate as your ears were ringing? And you would not let it go for pages.....
here you are again... going way overboard in the other direction
Let it go. you've made your points times over again.
The big yellow one is the sun!*What goes through my mind when I read "cAn I pUt ThE oG 6.5 oN a 7?*
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You and I's definition of conversation and argument are different... if you believe you were having a conversation a few months ago carry on.You are free to go read the July conversation again. As has already been explained, back then I was trying to figure out why the Scythe sounded so much quieter at “a db rating of 132.6” than the OG at 132-133. It turned out that the Scythe manual listed the readings in db, not dBA. Once adjusted for dBA, it made perfect sense, because the Scythe’s dBA readings are 128.4. In hindsight, it probably also didn’t help that I had just fired the Scythe. Not my best day of decision making. But I learned from the conversation and the research I had to do during the course of it. Of course, it took a few pages of conversation to figure that out. That’s how things are supposed to work. If I was still complaining about the OG’s dBA rating, it would be from deliberate ignorance, bias, or hardheadedness.
I like to talk about shooting and hunting and learn from the conversations. That’s why I am here. If you don’t enjoy that, I think there is some thread where you can go argue about some influencer who is innocent until proven guilty or whether we should ban hunting porn or which underwear are the most lethal against elk or which pants the deer prefer you to wear while you blow their brains out or whatever.
If we could all sit around a table and share a beer, this would be easier.
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This is so funny to read when looking at your profile pic of Keyboard WarriorYou and I's definition of conversation and argument are different... if you believe you were having a conversation a few months ago carry on.
Whatever your ramblings are in the second part make no sense but to each their own. You certainly make for an interesting read on here with your rants.
I have to live up to the name somehow. Would love to get back on track with suppressor testing and reviewsThis is so funny to read when looking at your profile pic of Keyboard Warrior
This. We all have different personalities and writing style or in my case lack of. We don’t know personalities on here and can’t see facial expressions. I think a lot of the arguments wouldn’t happen in person because you could tell the guy isn’t being a jerk he’s just talking. Then of course you will always have some who say things on line they wouldn’t say in person lol. I would say the biggest majority of people on these forums would get along fine in real life. Ball busting and all.If we could all sit around a table and share a beer, this would be easier.
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Thank you. As for my ramblings...Whatever your ramblings are in the second part make no sense but to each their own. You certainly make for an interesting read on here with your rants.
I like the way you think. I don't care what anybody says, the correct answer to all life's problems is to buy MORE suppressors.I have a radical suggestion for y'all ...
Keep your 30 cal cans for ... 30 cal rifles. Be happy.
Buy a 6.5 cal can for ... 6.5 rifles. Be happy.
And if @Unknown Suppressors come out with a .223 can ... buy one for .223 rifles. Be happy,
Better yet ... buy (whatever-appropriately-sized-as-you-see-it) cans for every single rifle you have. Be happy.
Problem solved.
I wish the OG 6.5 was designed as a reflex like the original for my hunting setup. Now I am looking at the zero gravity instead,,
The OG is a 30 cal can. I wish the new 6.5 can was a reflex like that one.The OG 6.5 is a reflex. Are you thinking of the Reaper?
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The OG is a 30 cal can. I wish the new 6.5 can was a reflex like that one.
The zero gravity is a much better hunting silencerI wish the OG 6.5 was designed as a reflex like the original for my hunting setup. Now I am looking at the zero gravity instead,,
Im talking about the current OG which is a 30 cal.The OG 6.5 is a reflex can. It gets released on September 12, according to last week’s podcast.
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I'm trying to make as compact as possible 6mm arc setup and would've loved having it over the barrel.The zero gravity is a much better hunting silencer
The extra volume of the OG over the barrel doesn’t help it at all compared to the airlock , and the airlock only extended 1/4” further than the OG. The airlock is MUCH MUCH quieter than the OG .Im talking about the current OG which is a 30 cal.
I'm trying to make as compact as possible 6mm arc setup and would've loved having it over the barrel.