Unknown suppressors OG testing

[Presswood_936]

I was being tongue in cheek because you’re making claims that a company lied.


No, and I don’t particularly want one. If anything, that should make me less biased, right? I’m not saying the OG is or isn’t good. I’m saying that claims of it being one of the loudest suppressors ever, or not be accurate to advertised specs, should be backed up with legitimate evidence.

FWIW, my next can will probably be the Airlock, or maybe the OG 6.5. It won’t be this year as I’m not in need of another suppressor, and this is my first year focusing on archery.

If you’re serious about side by side, and find yourself in Denver area, shoot me a PM. I’m about 45 mins west and would love to see the Airlock in person.

I’ll be coming north September 27 , and back mid October I’ll send you a private message on here as a reminder . We can make it work

 

[Kaleb]

@Presswood_936 is just a troll advertising for someone else. Best not to feed him.

I don’t think he’s being a troll. I think he has a different personality than some and the same personality as others. Totally fine. I “think” he was expecting it to be quieter than what it is and being vocal about his opinion. I respect his opinion because he ponied up bought the OG and is comparing to other suppressors he has bought. His test is not scientific but he’s giving his real life opinion going by his ears. I can appreciate that because my “testing” is done the same way right wrong politically correct or not.

I say this with a smile but if folks think this is a heated debate don’t sit around a table with a group of guys this time of year now that football season has started haha. I don’t follow it but many do and with much stronger opinions than this suppressor conversation.

 

[Presswood_936]

I don’t think he’s being a troll. I think he has a different personality than some and the same personality as others. Totally fine. I “think” he was expecting it to be quieter than what it is and being vocal about his opinion. I respect his opinion because he ponied up bought the OG and is comparing to other suppressors he has bought. His test is not scientific but he’s giving his real life opinion going by his ears. I can appreciate that because my “testing” is done the same way right wrong politically correct or not.

I say this with a smile but if folks think this is a heated debate don’t sit around a table with a group of guys this time of year now that football season has started haha. I don’t follow it but many do and with much stronger opinions than this suppressor conversation.

Thanks , I’m not trying to be a troll or a dick though I do come across that way at times . I put up $1200 and bought an OG the first 5 minutes they launched .
I think all companies DB numbers can be taken with a grain of salt and direct side by side testing with other popular silencers is the only way for consumers to know what they are getting . Unless they can demo them
In person .
I’m saying There’s no way the OG is 133 db at the ear when I’ve seen other quieter silencers that I actually own test higher on pewscience and tested by other manufacturers.

 

[atmat]

I edited my prior comment.

I appreciate the videos and feedback from @Presswood_936, and I think your more recent comments are more helpful.

Your initial comments were quite a bit less tactful, and seemed to intentionally be so. But I appreciate you offering to meet.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I’m saying There’s no way the OG is 133 db at the ear when I’ve seen other quieter silencers that I actually own test higher on pewscience and tested by other manufacturers.

Again. Big, if true.

Colossally stupid “big.”

Destroying the entire business “big.”

“Big” enough that if I worked at US/UM, I would invite you up to see the testing and test your other cans on the same day with the same equipment. And record it all.


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[Presswood_936]

Again. Big, if true.

Colossally stupid “big.”

Destroying the entire business “big.”

“Big” enough that if I worked at US/UM, I would invite you up to see the testing and test your other cans on the same day with the same equipment. And record it all.


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Has unknown posted any db testing videos comparing the OG to other popular silencers like the evo , omega , scythe , raptor ? Like airlock does ?

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Has unknown posted any db testing videos comparing the OG to other popular silencers like the evo , omega , scythe , raptor ? Like airlock does ?

Not that I am aware. But Cliff has repeatedly explained their testing methodology. They tested on multiple days using another suppressor as a baseline and didn’t just pick the lowest readings.

Again, I don’t care how it sounds to your ears. Or my ears. Or anyone else’s ears. I care how it measures on the same equipment in the same setup. That’s why the only reports to which I pay attention are the TBAC Summit reports. All the invited manufacturers using the same setup with an incentive to make sure the test goes as well as possible, but presumably not able to cheat or lie about the results because the competition is watching.

Beyond that, I expect every suppressor manufacturer not to puff up their numbers to the point where they could be sued for false advertising if subjected to an objective test. From what I know of Cliff, he’s not an idiot and wouldn’t do that. I expect he “has the receipts” (records of testing) or can replicate comparable results if forced to do so.


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[Presswood_936]

Not that I am aware. But Cliff has repeatedly explained their testing methodology. They tested on multiple days using another suppressor as a baseline and didn’t just pick the lowest readings.

Again, I don’t care how it sounds to your ears. Or my ears. Or anyone else’s ears. I care how it measures on the same equipment in the same setup. That’s why the only reports to which I pay attention are the TBAC Summit reports. All the invited manufacturers using the same setup with an incentive to make sure the test goes as well as possible, but presumably not able to cheat or lie about the results because the competition is watching.

Beyond that, I expect every suppressor manufacturer not to puff up their numbers to the point where they could be sued for false advertising if subjected to an objective test. From what I know of Cliff, he’s not an idiot and wouldn’t do that. I expect he “has the receipts” (records of testing) or can replicate comparable results if forced to do so.


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See thats where we differ , I DO care what a silencer sounds like to my ears . I’ll bet you $100 unknown won’t show up to the tbac summit next year with an Original OG …

I also don’t know who Cliff is

 

[Presswood_936]

Not that I am aware. But Cliff has repeatedly explained their testing methodology. They tested on multiple days using another suppressor as a baseline and didn’t just pick the lowest readings.

Again, I don’t care how it sounds to your ears. Or my ears. Or anyone else’s ears. I care how it measures on the same equipment in the same setup. That’s why the only reports to which I pay attention are the TBAC Summit reports. All the invited manufacturers using the same setup with an incentive to make sure the test goes as well as possible, but presumably not able to cheat or lie about the results because the competition is watching.

Beyond that, I expect every suppressor manufacturer not to puff up their numbers to the point where they could be sued for false advertising if subjected to an objective test. From what I know of Cliff, he’s not an idiot and wouldn’t do that. I expect he “has the receipts” (records of testing) or can replicate comparable results if forced to do so.


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You also haven’t been in the silencer game long enough to realize 90 percent of silencer companies make BS claims . You prolly don’t even know about JJFU and his 98 DB claims from 10 years ago . But that’s the point , there’s no standardized testing so there’s no way to prove their silencer didn’t test at a certain DB , under certain conditions , with specific ammo , on a bluebird day . How would anybody ever sue and win like that ?

 

[Q_Sertorius]

See thats where we differ , I DO care what a silencer sounds like to my ears . I’ll bet you $100 unknown won’t show up to the tbac summit next year with an Original OG …

I also don’t know who Cliff is

He’s been on the S2H podcasts whenever they discuss the US/UM suppressors. You should give him a call. I am sure if you aren’t a jerk he would be happy to talk with you. After listening to last week’s podcast, I called him up to discuss the OG and OG 6.5. I’d never spoken with him before and he had no reason to listen to me, but he answered all my questions. Same as Danny did when I talked with him about the Airlock on Saturday afternoon. These are small businesses run by people you can just call up and speak with. It’s not like trying to talk to the lead designer for General Motors or something.


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[wind gypsy]

Again. Big, if true.

Colossally stupid “big.”

Destroying the entire business “big.”

“Big” enough that if I worked at US/UM, I would invite you up to see the testing and test your other cans on the same day with the same equipment. And record it all.

You're overblowing this.

I dont long for an OG but the 6.5 OG sounds compelling. Cliff comes off positively to me, i'm sure they'll make nice cans for years go come. That said, i think they might have lost some steam on buyers taking a leap on new products until they are more independently eval'd or until their other offerings have more positive remarks on the suppression front.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

You're overblowing this.

I dont long for an OG but the 6.5 OG sounds compelling. Cliff comes off positively to me, i'm sure they'll make nice cans for years go come. That said, i think they might have lost some steam on blind buyers taking a leap on new products until they are more independently eval'd or until their other offerings have more positive remarks on the suppression front.

I’m not overblowing it. If they advertised the OG at 133 or 132 and no reasonable amount of third party testing can replicate that, then they are a payout for a federal class action lawsuit waiting to happen.


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[Ajsomp]

Thanks , I’m not trying to be a troll or a dick though I do come across that way at times . I put up $1200 and bought an OG the first 5 minutes they launched .
I think all companies DB numbers can be taken with a grain of salt and direct side by side testing with other popular silencers is the only way for consumers to know what they are getting . Unless they can demo them
In person .
I’m saying There’s no way the OG is 133 db at the ear when I’ve seen other quieter silencers that I actually own test higher on pewscience and tested by other manufacturers.

As I stated before- if the OG is 133, my CAT JL is in the 120s easily. I will bring it to next years S2H class and someone can bring a sound meter if we are so inclined.

I’m not overblowing it. If they advertised the OG at 133 or 132 and no reasonable amount of third party testing can replicate that, then they are a payout for a federal class action lawsuit waiting to happen.


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you really haven’t been around suppressors very long. no class action lawsuits over DBa values.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

You also haven’t been in the silencer game long enough to realize 90 percent of silencer companies make BS claims . You prolly don’t even know about JJFU and his 98 DB claims from 10 years ago . But that’s the point , there’s no standardized testing so there’s no way to prove their silencer didn’t test at a certain DB , under certain conditions , with specific ammo , on a bluebird day . How would anybody ever sue and win like that ?

Because they have made specific public statements that they didn’t do that. The testing methodology they have described should easily lend itself to duplication by a third party. All those public statements cut against them if they are lying about the results.

And, for the record, I don’t think Cliff, or anyone else at US/UM is lying.

I think your ear, my ear, anyone’s ear, is not a safe or sound basis for decibel testing. That you persist in arguing to the contrary baffles me. Puns intended.


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[Presswood_936]

I think your ear, my ear, anyone’s ear, is not a safe or sound basis for decibel testing. That you persist in arguing to the contrary baffles me. Puns intended.


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I have made zero DB claims based on my ears . I have stated and will stand by that the OG is MUCH louder to my ears AND bystanders than all of the other 30 caliber silencers I own that have tested 133 db and higher .

 

[Q_Sertorius]

inclined.


you really haven’t been around suppressors very long. no class action lawsuits over DBa values.

And how many manufacturers have stated so openly how they did the testing as part of selling the product?

I don’t need years of experience with the suppressor industry to know that the more information you provide as a company, the more you open yourself up to a misrepresentation claim. This isn’t just a number on the website. It’s been explained how they derived that number. And what they specifically did or didn’t do when testing and publishing results.

Also, do you people even understand logarithmic scales? 133 isn’t “just a little bit louder” than 130 or 127. It’s a lot louder. Every three decibels increase is a doubling of the sound. Edit - and that’s why I wondered so much about why US/UM appeared “content” with that rating before they released the OG. The conversations are all here in these threads.


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[Q_Sertorius]

I have made zero DB claims based on my ears . I have stated and will stand by that the OG is MUCH louder to my ears AND bystanders than all of the other 30 caliber silencers I own that have tested 133 db and higher .

Again, I would love to see an objective machine test of those other 133 SE dBA rated suppressors at the same time as the OG.


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[Presswood_936]

As I stated before- if the OG is 133, my CAT JL is in the 120s easily. I will bring it to next years S2H class and someone can bring a sound meter if we are so inclined.


you really haven’t been around suppressors very long. no class action lawsuits over DBa values.

The cat JL is a super quiet silencer but I have a feeling nobody is gonna test an original July of 2025 release OG against anything else in a public forum .

I will gladly send mine to tbac, pewscience , airlock , anybody with the equipment to test .

 

[Presswood_936]

Again, I would love to see an objective machine test of those other 133 SE dBA rated suppressors at the same time as the OG.


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I will gladly donate my OG to anybody willing to test it side by side .

 

[Fever Buck]

Man, I’m just wondering what everyone does for work to have this much disposable income. Everyone is buying all of these products on Rokslide the first day they’re announced. It took me 2 years to decide on what suppressor I wanted for my hunting rifle.

Also just a big lesson learned for folks, be patient with your money. That way you can avoid being the guinea pig for all of these new products regardless of who makes it.