Unknown suppressors OG testing

[mtnbound]

Some OG testing I did the same day as my previous videos , the camera is too close to get a good representation of sound like the previous videos , but the muzzle blast is represented well …put in ear buds for the best results

Hyperion k , airlock zero g, OG , Ab raptor 4 w/3” reflex

Honesty, I can’t tell any difference from can to can in the video.

 

[HuntHarder]

I'll be honest, dropping the OG 6.5 a couple months after I got the OG, irked me. The 6.5 would fit my intended use much better than the OG. Not saying I regret the purchase, but had I known, I would have waited 2 months and bought the 6.5 OG. Maybe this will be the new norm with a bunch of new companies popping up. I know in the past, companies typically drop a few cans and ride those for a year or 2 or more before improving. 3D printing cans also lends it's self to quick testing and design changes. Live and Learn I suppose

 

[mtnbound]

Reaper on a 10.5” 5.56mm. 90 rounds near cyclic-

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No damage to the can whatsoever.

That’s an expensive way to get a fire going. I think I’ll stay with my flint and steel.

 

[Presswood_936]

Honesty, I can’t tell any difference from can to can in the video.

The sound isn’t well represented because the crappy phone mic is too close , but pay close attention to the muzzle blast . You can definitely tell a difference on sound if you have earbuds in though .

 

[mtnbound]

The sound isn’t well represented because the crappy phone mic is too close , but pay close attention to the muzzle blast . You can definitely tell a difference on sound if you have earbuds in though .

I tried it with and without earbuds and it didn’t make any difference. I think the phone microphone just doesn’t translate what you hear in person.

 

[JGRaider]

I tried it with and without earbuds and it didn’t make any difference. I think the phone microphone just doesn’t translate what you hear in person.

Though no fault of the video posters, but they seldom if ever give a good indication of what it sounds like in person. Wind speed and direction and other variables, even when you're standing right there can have an impact from shot to shot.

 

[Presswood_936]

I tried it with and without earbuds and it didn’t make any difference. I think the phone microphone just doesn’t translate what you hear in person.

Here’s a slomo of the muzzle blast , also make sure your playback is atleast 1080p

 

[HairyScandinavian]

Not sure why y'all are butthurt over the 6.5. Reading the "way better" statement it seems it was more of a happy accident that it's way better. Now if they knew it was gonna be "way better" and held it from the market to sell the 30's I could see being annoyed but doesn't seem that was their intent. Glad I waited, I'll probably pickup the 6.5 when they get the SS deal done.

 

[Formidilosus]

It’s only logical UM has been selling OG’s knowing a much improved version was imminent well ahead of original or signaled expectations.

That is not true at all. You have no clue the experimentation and testing cycle that US is on. I took the first prototype light OG 6.5 in mid August on a hunt 2-3 days after it was made. That’s how long the 6.5 has been around. It wasn’t until the week before the podcast that it was finalized and testing was complete to offer it at all. There is no conspiracy here no matter what you think.

The 6.5 OG isn’t “way better” than the OG- they should have never stated that because it is relative. The OG is a 30cal can, you can’t shoot 30cal through the 6.5. Not only that, it is a 10oz 30cal can that is near indestructible, that adds 4” to the muzzle is and well beyond hearing safe.
Being upset about this is baffling. The rifle that I have with me right now to hunt with has a 30cal OG on it- and isn’t 30cal. I could easily put a 6.5 OG on it, yet I don’t because the OG is as good of a can now as it was 2 months ago. I have multiple people that are close enough to me they could have anything I own for the asking- they all bought OG’s full price, and have all used the 6.5- not one of them is upset at that. You buy what is the best option at the moment- there is always something better coming later.

 

[Timjohnson11]

That is not true at all. You have no clue the experimentation and testing cycle that US is on. I took the first prototype light OG 6.5 in mid August on a hunt 2-3 days after it was made. That’s how long the 6.5 has been around. It wasn’t until the week before the podcast that it was finalized and testing was complete to offer it at all. There is no conspiracy here no matter what you think.

The 6.5 OG isn’t “way better” than the OG- they should have never stated that because it is relative. The OG is a 30cal can, you can’t shoot 30cal through the 6.5. Not only that, it is a 10oz 30cal can that is near indestructible, that adds 4” to the muzzle is and well beyond hearing safe.
Being upset about this is baffling. The rifle that I have with me right now to hunt with has a 30cal OG on it- and isn’t 30cal. I could easily put a 6.5 OG on it, yet I don’t because the OG is as good of a can now as it was 2 months ago. I have multiple people that are close enough to me they could have anything I own for the asking- they all bought OG’s full price, and have all used the 6.5- not one of them is upset at that. You buy what is the best option at the moment- there is always something better coming later.

I’m not trying to imply “conspiracy” and I apologize if it came across that way. I was speculating however that UM likely knew they had a way better product in the OG 6.5 for the past few weeks and if it wouldn’t had been better to pause OG sales in the interim, or inform OG buyers over the past few weeks what was immenent for PR sake. Doesn’t sound like it’s been as long as I would have thought however based on your comments, apologies again.

As far as “way better”, US literally markets it as such but I appreciate your opinion that it maybe isn’t as big of a gap as their podcast, product specs, and marketing language online suggest it out to be.

Anyways, I’m done. I don’t own an OG and am not a viable source of feedback here. Just an interested OG 6.5 customer that had some questions about the whole UM process once I started seeing how improved the OG 6.5 appears for must use cases. I think the reality of the situation though is that outside of @Presswood_936, there doesn’t seem to be much issue with the situation from actual OG owners. That perhaps is the ultimate sign of satisfaction product quality with the OG

 

[Presswood_936]

I’m not trying to imply “conspiracy” and I apologize if it came across that way. I was speculating however that UM likely knew they had a way better product in the OG 6.5 for the past few weeks and if it wouldn’t had been better to pause OG sales in the interim, or inform OG buyers over the past few weeks what was immenent for PR sake. Doesn’t sound like it’s been as long as I would have thought however based on your comments, apologies again.

As far as “way better”, US literally markets it as such but I appreciate your opinion that it maybe isn’t as big of a gap as their podcast, product specs, and marketing language online suggest it out to be.

Anyways, I’m done. I don’t own an OG and am not a viable source of feedback here. Just an interested OG 6.5 customer that had some questions about the whole UM process once I started seeing how improved the OG 6.5 appears for must use cases. I think the reality of the situation though is that outside of @Presswood_936, there doesn’t seem to be much issue with the situation from actual OG owners. That perhaps is the ultimate sign of satisfaction product quality with the OG

do you Think other OG owners might be afraid to speak up here ? Others have criticized it in the past and have miraculously done 180s in their opinion of the OG .

 

[JGRaider]

do you Think other OG owners might be afraid to speak up here ? Others have criticized it in the past and have miraculously done 180s in their opinion of the OG .

It would be hard to argue otherwise if you've been around here long enough. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to see UM get into the suppressor game, the more good ones the merrier. If you've noticed, historically, any product endorsed by RS and their diehard followers, when an alternate viewpoint or user experience is posted, they come out in all out attack mode.

 

[Kaleb]

I’m not butt hurt and everyone has different opinions. I some find the 6.5 better than the 30 I wonder if the/a 6mm would be a pinch better? I may wait for a 6mm because I have more 30 caliber cans than I will ever have rifles that require over 6mm. I have a 260 708 280AI and 300win. Wife has a 250AI. The rest is 22 and 24 calibers and I can’t think of any reason why I would get or add to the over 6mm numbers. I’m tickled pink with 30 caliber cans on small stuff and like I’ve said I can’t tell my 6mm cans are any better but if new 6mm cans come out I’ll give them a go.

 

[Formidilosus]

I’m not trying to imply “conspiracy” and I apologize if it came across that way. I was speculating however that UM likely knew they had a way better product in the OG 6.5 for the past few weeks and if it wouldn’t had been better to pause OG sales in the interim, or inform OG buyers over the past few weeks what was immenent for PR sake. Doesn’t sound like it’s been as long as I would have thought however based on your comments, apologies again.

As far as “way better”, US literally markets it as such but I appreciate your opinion that it maybe isn’t as big of a gap as their podcast, product specs, and marketing language online suggest it out to be.

Anyways, I’m done. I don’t own an OG and am not a viable source of feedback here. Just an interested OG 6.5 customer that had some questions about the whole UM process once I started seeing how improved the OG 6.5 appears for must use cases. I think the reality of the situation though is that outside of @Presswood_936, there doesn’t seem to be much issue with the situation from actual OG owners. That perhaps is the ultimate sign of satisfaction product quality with the OG

You can be as critical as you want- everyone should be critical to the industry. My goal is offering factual information. I have had interactions with quite a few suppressor companies for over a decade and there are some really, really good suppressors. However, there is no company that I have seen that iterates, experiments and tests at the rate and speed US does. I believe they should be more open about it, because it is quite unique.

 

[Presswood_936]

It would be hard to argue otherwise if you've been around here long enough. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to see UM get into the suppressor game, the more good ones the merrier. If you've noticed, historically, any product endorsed by RS and their diehard followers, when an alternate viewpoint or user experience is posted, they come out in all out attack mode.

The OG goes great with a tikka, rokstok and maven combo

 

[Kaleb]

do you Think other OG owners might be afraid to speak up here ? Others have criticized it in the past and have miraculously done 180s in their opinion of the OG .

I’m one who said at first that the OG was the loudest can I have. I admit I was hoping it would sound better than the cans I already own. I also shot it a good bit more and in different locations. It’s not much different than my other cans but it is 2” shorter. So I’m fine. Would I rather have the 6.5 that’s the same length lighter and supposedly a little bit quieter? Absolutely but I have a 280AI and or 300win the OG can live on. Like I mentioned above I can’t think of any reason why I’d buy another 30 OG if the 6.5 is a bit better though. I will also try the new airlock since it’s also short and is supposedly quieter.

Not trying to ride both sides of the fence or anything but thought I should respond since I am one who chimed in at first about it being louder than my others. It’s not super quit but was never advertised to be.

 

[Kaleb]

The OG goes great with a tikka, rokstok and maven combo

lol I have a rokstok ordered. The rifle might get an airlock swap though…grin.

 

[mtnwrunner]

The OG goes great with a tikka, rokstok and maven combo

Actually.........it does.

Randy

 

[Antares]

I'll join in here to express a some frustration with the US timeline related to the OG rollout and it's variants.

I got in on the OG presale because I was excited about the product and wanted to support US in their startup phase. I have no regrets about that; the OG is a great can.

That said, it did sting a little to see the OG go on sale within a month of the initial release. I understand the reasoning – trying to incentivize people to buy now instead of waiting until Jan 1 when the tax stamp goes away – but still. Anyway, shrugged that off and moved on.

But now to see the OG Six-Five rollout within two months of the OG release and see it described as "way better than the .30 Caliber version" on their own website, have it somehow be 30% lighter than the OG, and have it be cheaper than the OG is pretty ******* irritating to be honest.

 

[Timjohnson11]

You can be as critical as you want- everyone should be critical to the industry. My goal is offering factual information. I have had interactions with quite a few suppressor companies for over a decade and there are some really, really good suppressors. However, there is no company that I have seen that iterates, experiments and tests at the rate and speed US does. I believe they should be more open about it, because it is quite unique.

I certainly do appreciate that. Again, I personally love that the OG 6.5 has come out and that US is upping the game for everyone, as I didn’t buy the OG and am hopeful, if not plan to, get an OG 6.5. Just did feel a bit for the early OG adopters.