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[Kimber7man]

Came home today! Hoping to hit the range in the next week or so
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Love the scope and rifle - details???

 

[Ajsomp]

Having paralysis analysis - got my OGs home tonight. I’ve got three rifles and only two OGs. I still have a few other suppressors, so I’ll still have the rifles covered. But those are 7-8 inches long depending on the suppressor with the CAT JL being the current suppressor choice for my 6.5 PRC.

Three rifles
223 tikka/rokstok 18” barrel
22 creed tikka/rokstok 18” barrel
6.5 PRC tikka/rokstok 20” barrel

initially I was going to do the 223/6.5 identical but snagged the 22 creed from @hereinaz and now I’m debating what suppressor goes where. not a fan of moving them around, so once it goes on, it’s staying. I keep seeing that shorty rokstok lite combo @Formidilosus has so I’m leaning towards the 22 creed and 223

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Having paralysis analysis - got my OGs home tonight. I’ve got three rifles and only two OGs. I still have a few other suppressors, so I’ll still have the rifles covered. But those are 7-8 inches long depending on the suppressor with the CAT JL being the current suppressor choice for my 6.5 PRC.

Three rifles
223 tikka/rokstok 18” barrel
22 creed tikka/rokstok 18” barrel
6.5 PRC tikka/rokstok 20” barrel

initially I was going to do the 223/6.5 identical but snagged the 22 creed from @hereinaz and now I’m debating what suppressor goes where. not a fan of moving them around, so once it goes on, it’s staying. I keep seeing that shorty rokstok lite combo @Formidilosus has so I’m leaning towards the 22 creed and 223

If it helps you make a decision, I would put a 6” or longer suppressor on the 6.5 PRC. I assume you are using it as a long range hunting rifle. The other two will still be carbine length with the 4” suppressors. Given that you have two OGs, keeping them as handy as you can makes sense.

Edit - personally, my plan is to go the other direction. I am planning to put my OG (4") on my 21" .270 Mauser, with occasional use on a 26" .25-06 Mauser. I am putting an AB Raptor 10 (7.2") on my 16.1" .223 Tikka RSS-trainer and an AB Raptor 8 (6.2") on my 20" Tikka 6.5 CM RSS.


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[Ajsomp]

If it helps you make a decision, I would put a 6” or longer suppressor on the 6.5 PRC. I assume you are using it as a long range hunting rifle. The other two will still be carbine length with the 4” suppressors. Given that you have two OGs, keeping them as handy as you can makes sense.

Edit - personally, my plan is to go the other direction. I am planning to put my OG (4") on my 21" .270 Mauser, with occasional use on a 26" .25-06 Mauser. I am putting an AB Raptor 10 (7.2") on my 16.1" .223 Tikka RSS-trainer and an AB Raptor 8 (6.2") on my 20" Tikka 6.5 CM RSS.


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Yeah a lightweight 6 inch suppressor isn’t what I have right now. Shortest titanium suppressor I have is the JL which is 8.5”

I was going to snag a resilient Jolene s which is shorter and lightweight but I’m trying not to buy yet another suppressor if I don’t have to.

 

[wind gypsy]

Having paralysis analysis - got my OGs home tonight. I’ve got three rifles and only two OGs. I still have a few other suppressors, so I’ll still have the rifles covered. But those are 7-8 inches long depending on the suppressor with the CAT JL being the current suppressor choice for my 6.5 PRC.

Three rifles
223 tikka/rokstok 18” barrel
22 creed tikka/rokstok 18” barrel
6.5 PRC tikka/rokstok 20” barrel

initially I was going to do the 223/6.5 identical but snagged the 22 creed from @hereinaz and now I’m debating what suppressor goes where. not a fan of moving them around, so once it goes on, it’s staying. I keep seeing that shorty rokstok lite combo @Formidilosus has so I’m leaning towards the 22 creed and 223

Seems like you've got it figured out. OGs on the smaller case 22s and JL on the PRC. Unless you're using the PRC on a hunt where the extra length is going to be more burdensome than normal in which case you spin on an OG.

What was the actual weight of your JL? I've seen reports of them coming in considerably over spec.

 

[Ajsomp]

Seems like you've got it figured out. OGs on the smaller case 22s and JL on the PRC. Unless you're using the PRC on a hunt where the extra length is going to be more burdensome than normal in which case you spin on an OG.

What was the actual weight of your JL? I've seen reports of them coming in considerably over spec.

I really plan to use the 22 creed a bunch this fall, but the 6.5 has been dead nuts for me and saw a lot of work last year.

I’m going to weigh them all out tonight and do a side by side comparison for length, weight, balance. If I remember when I got it, it was 11 oz, but I’ll confirm. Then try to get some range time to zero and do a little sound comparison.

Spoiler - the JL is the quietest bolt gun suppressor I’ve ever used so I don’t think the OG will beat it. But I don’t expect it to. I want something that balances better, gives me suppression while hunting, and won’t blow off the end of my gun (sico).

 

[Formidilosus]

Having paralysis analysis - got my OGs home tonight. I’ve got three rifles and only two OGs. I still have a few other suppressors, so I’ll still have the rifles covered. But those are 7-8 inches long depending on the suppressor with the CAT JL being the current suppressor choice for my 6.5 PRC.

Three rifles
223 tikka/rokstok 18” barrel
22 creed tikka/rokstok 18” barrel
6.5 PRC tikka/rokstok 20” barrel

initially I was going to do the 223/6.5 identical but snagged the 22 creed from @hereinaz and now I’m debating what suppressor goes where. not a fan of moving them around, so once it goes on, it’s staying. I keep seeing that shorty rokstok lite combo @Formidilosus has so I’m leaning towards the 22 creed and 223

Oh it’d be OG in 223 and 22CM and CAT on 6.5PRC. Mostly, because I would shoot the first two by far the most.

 

[Moosehunter]

So in a short barrel (14-16") creedmoor is the og "enough"?
I realize it's purpose built im just not sure where it would start getting uncomfortable.
Or at that point are you better getting a bit more in front of muzzle at the sacrifice of a little more length?

 

[Formidilosus]

So in a short barrel (14-16") creedmoor is the og "enough"?
I realize it's purpose built im just not sure where it would start getting uncomfortable.
Or at that point are you better getting a bit more in front of muzzle at the sacrifice of a little more length?

They haven’t been metered on any that short that I know of. The OG will be well below 140dB at the ear from a 16” barrel however.

 

[Moosehunter]

@Formidilosus Do you see a specific use case for the reaper? Or is it simply the minivan of suppressors to you? What about short sbr bolt actions. Even down to 12".
Edit to add: I'm a noob as far as suppressors go and all. The only can I've heard is an ab-10 on my Tikka 223. I love it.

 

[xrangerx]

Love the scope and rifle - details???

It is a hodge podge of components that I had Rbros (who used to be local) put together for me. I bargain binned a bunch of decent parts and he built it out for me: BAT vrd action, rock creek barrel, McMillan stock, badger bottom metal and a geissele 2 stage. The scope is a S&B PMII 10x

 

[Ajsomp]

Weights/visuals for now.

Opted for the raw titanium vs bead blasted. Same rifles listed above. Weights (in grams because it is more finite on this scale)

UM OG 1- 307 grams (10.83 oz)
UM OG 2 - 307 grams (10.83 oz)
UM OG 2 with 1/28 adapter- 319 (11.25 oz)
CAT JL- 315 grams (11.11 oz)
Rugged Radiant 7.62 - 367 grams (12.95 oz)
Rugged Radiant 7.62 with muzzle device - 418 grams (14.744 oz)

Size comparison - relatively the same overall size with the JL coming in the longest of the bunch. The radiant used to sit on my 223, JL on the 6.5 PRC. Quickly threw a scope on the 223 to give better overall reference.

Notable length savings vs the radiant and JL. Savings in weight also helps. 22 creed will get the same SWFA 6x and rings.

I didn’t add the LS Wild Suppressor covers because I’m not sure I’m going to run them yet. But I have them if I choose to.


223 weight with suppressor scope (how I would hunt minus mags and ammo)- 3788 grams (8.351 lb). I would like to get these down in the 7 lb range (rokstok lite?) and I’ll be happy.. for now.

 

[Formidilosus]

@Formidilosus Do you see a specific use case for the reaper? Or is it simply the minivan of suppressors to you? What about short sbr bolt actions. Even down to 12".
Edit to add: I'm a noob as far as suppressors go and all. The only can I've heard is an ab-10 on my Tikka 223. I love it.

Ehh. Yes and no. 3-5 years ago I would have said it was the best overall can on the market because there weren’t any OTB cans that weren’t logs on the front end (AB), or weigh 20+oz (OPS INC). It’s going to be an excellent can for someone that doesn’t know what an OTB is, or who doesn’t know what rifle they want to use a suppressor on, or who wants to out it in magnums and doesn’t really care about length. I imagine it will run fine on a gas gun, but I’ll have to see to be sure. For a lot of people, it’s the can they think they want. I have little doubt it will be US’s best selling can. It’s a Scythe that doesn’t suck.

For my use…. I don’t think I have a single rifle I want to use it on. But that isn’t because the Reaper isn’t good for what it is- it’s excellent. I feel that way about all the muzzle forward 5-7” cans.
I haven’t used a CGS Hyperion K since February and those were my favorite bolt gun cans. Nor have I the TBAC, DD STi’s, JK, etc, etc. For bolt action hunting cans I want at least mid 130’s dB’s, with the smallest form factor to get it. If I want more suppression, I want SUPPRESSION and I have 9” long muzzle forward cans. I also am using several proto’s from US that are phenomenal, but I don’t think those will be sold.

I will have multiple Reapers on hand for guns where it makes sense, and for large magnums it definitely does. But, while everyone else sees 6” muzzle forward cans as “all-around” cans, I see them mostly as specialty cans.

 

[Moosehunter]

Ehh. Yes and no. 3-5 years ago I would have said it was the best overall can on the market because there weren’t any OTB cans that weren’t logs on the front end (AB), or weigh 20+oz (OPS INC). It’s going to be an excellent can for someone that doesn’t know what an OTB is, or who doesn’t know what rifle they want to use a suppressor on, or who wants to out it in magnums and doesn’t really care about length. I imagine it will run fine on a gas gun, but I’ll have to see to be sure. For a lot of people, it’s the can they think they want. I have little doubt it will be US’s best selling can. It’s a Scythe that doesn’t suck.

For my use…. I don’t think I have a single rifle I want to use it on. But that isn’t because the Reaper isn’t good for what it is- it’s excellent. I feel that way about all the muzzle forward 5-7” cans.
I haven’t used a CGS Hyperion K since February and those were my favorite bolt gun cans. Nor have I the TBAC, DD STi’s, JK, etc, etc. For bolt action hunting cans I want at least mid 130’s dB’s, with the smallest form factor to get it. If I want more suppression, I want SUPPRESSION and I have 9” long muzzle forward cans. I also am using several proto’s from US that are phenomenal, but I don’t think those will be sold.

I will have multiple Reapers on hand for guns where it makes sense, and for large magnums it definitely does. But, while everyone else sees 6” muzzle forward cans as “all-around” cans, I see them mostly as specialty cans.

Thanks for the good response!
Out of curiosity..what 9" inch type cans do you like. And is US going to bring one to market?
I toy around with doing an sbr bolt gun and just want to make sure I get enough suppressor. My theory is to buy the suppressor first. Cause it's one thing I have to have for any given rifle. Lol

 

[Formidilosus]

Thanks for the good response!
Out of curiosity..what 9" inch type cans do you like.

This one.

And is US going to bring one to market?

Don’t know.

I toy around with doing an sbr bolt gun and just want to make sure I get enough suppressor. My theory is to buy the suppressor first. Cause it's one thing I have to have for any given rifle. Lol

The Reaper will be a good suppressor for that.

 

[Unknown Suppressors]

Ehh. Yes and no. 3-5 years ago I would have said it was the best overall can on the market because there weren’t any OTB cans that weren’t logs on the front end (AB), or weigh 20+oz (OPS INC). It’s going to be an excellent can for someone that doesn’t know what an OTB is, or who doesn’t know what rifle they want to use a suppressor on, or who wants to out it in magnums and doesn’t really care about length. I imagine it will run fine on a gas gun, but I’ll have to see to be sure. For a lot of people, it’s the can they think they want. I have little doubt it will be US’s best selling can. It’s a Scythe that doesn’t suck.

For my use…. I don’t think I have a single rifle I want to use it on. But that isn’t because the Reaper isn’t good for what it is- it’s excellent. I feel that way about all the muzzle forward 5-7” cans.
I haven’t used a CGS Hyperion K since February and those were my favorite bolt gun cans. Nor have I the TBAC, DD STi’s, JK, etc, etc. For bolt action hunting cans I want at least mid 130’s dB’s, with the smallest form factor to get it. If I want more suppression, I want SUPPRESSION and I have 9” long muzzle forward cans. I also am using several proto’s from US that are phenomenal, but I don’t think those will be sold.

I will have multiple Reapers on hand for guns where it makes sense, and for large magnums it definitely does. But, while everyone else sees 6” muzzle forward cans as “all-around” cans, I see them mostly as specialty cans.

Excellent way of putting it.

 

[Unknown Suppressors]

Thanks for the good response!
Out of curiosity..what 9" inch type cans do you like. And is US going to bring one to market?
I toy around with doing an sbr bolt gun and just want to make sure I get enough suppressor. My theory is to buy the suppressor first. Cause it's one thing I have to have for any given rifle. Lol

I don’t know that the one he has will be brought to market, but, for me to make the reaper 2-3” longer would be very very easy. Just needs to be enough interest to justify it!

 

[Deadspace]

I don’t know that the one he has will be brought to market, but, for me to make the reaper 2-3” longer would be very very easy. Just needs to be enough interest to justify it!

Is it a ridiculous question to ask you guys to make a suppressor that’s sub 120 decibels or would that be too big and bulky for hunting? Even with guys running 16” barrels.

 

[Formidilosus]

Is it a ridiculous question to ask you guys to make a suppressor that’s sub 120 decibels or would that be too big and bulky for hunting? Even with guys running 16” barrels.

It’s not possible. The sonic crack of the bullet is mid 120’s.

 

[Axlrod]

I don’t know that the one he has will be brought to market, but, for me to make the reaper 2-3” longer would be very very easy. Just needs to be enough interest to justify it!

Just the fact manufacturing has evolved into 3d printing high quality Ti suppressors is pretty cool.
I predict in the next few years you will have a drop down menu where the buyer inputs their own custom dimensions. And for better or for worse, they will get just what they want.