UM Tikka Ring Design Change?

[ckt3]

Been out of the loop on rings. So don't know the backstory.

But I put what I think are gen 1 lows over a tikka 6.5 about 2.5 years ago.

Haven't had any issues so far. Should I be looking more into it, or is it a Non issue?

50% chance they spontaneously combust.

But in all seriousness it seems the discussion here is mostly about aesthetics. If they’ve worked for you I imagine they’ll continue to.

 

[PredatoronthePrairie]

50% chance they spontaneously combust.

But in all seriousness it seems the discussion here is mostly about aesthetics. If they’ve worked for you I imagine they’ll continue to.

Thought I read something about some kind of issue with a recoil pin or something. Or otherwise y make the changes?

 

[Formidilosus]

Thought I read something about some kind of issue with a recoil pin or something. Or otherwise y make the changes?

The Gen 1 rings are solid. There is a bunch of nonsense that got started because UM or employees didn’t listen to correct torque specs, and a couple large 30cal mags had ring slippage. The Gen 2 use a titanium clamp, theoretically better- but functionally doesn’t matter. That’s it.

 

[Deadspace]

Hi...

We ran 1000 extra upper rings to fix the mismatch issue. It took us longer than I had hoped as we had a machine go down for 3 weeks.

These are the Gen 2 Tikka rings, not *Premier Tikka Rings*. Ti clamp, 6061 everywhere else.

The slight cost increase was due to making the clamps out of titanium instead of 6061 aluminum. Just the material blank of titanium to make 4 of the Ti tikka clamps costs more than we could make 10 entire 6061 clamps out of. And that's before we even machine the titanium.

The Gen 1's had a few (we're talking well sub 1% here, and not like the scythe failure 1% lol) slippage issues on 300 WSM and 300 win mag. So after making the rings for 2 years it was decided to improve them so running a bigger magnum on a tikka wouldn't have any issues. That's how we landed on the low profile titanium clamp, and the cleaner more modern looking 45 degree corner cut vs the old radius on the Gen 1 rings.

We (SRS) do our best to test our products before we bring them to market. A good example would be that I was the guinea pig at the Belt MT NRL Hunter with our new Grim suppressor brake to make sure it performed how it should, and didn't come loose. It did great so we moved into production. We also shot it a bunch with "rapid fire" on a 300 PRC.



Ken

Not sure how many 300WSM issues you had but I’m aware of one of them. You cant take the blame for that one, that was all the lead sleds fault. But hats off to you guys and UM for going well above and beyond to make it right for that guy. Solid customer service even when it was the customers fault.

 

[Lionheart]

Jake,
Could I get a couple of the new caps for these?
Thanks,
Edwin
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Big thank you and shout out to Jake … he didn’t send me new upper rings he sent me two brand new sets!
And Jake please send me a return postage thing again?
I somehow lost the one you included…I will be glad to send you back the mismatched sets.
Again, many thanks, kudos and you have a customer for life.
Edwin

 

[Mikido]

Hi...

We ran 1000 extra upper rings to fix the mismatch issue. It took us longer than I had hoped as we had a machine go down for 3 weeks.

These are the Gen 2 Tikka rings, not *Premier Tikka Rings*. Ti clamp, 6061 everywhere else.

The slight cost increase was due to making the clamps out of titanium instead of 6061 aluminum. Just the material blank of titanium to make 4 of the Ti tikka clamps costs more than we could make 10 entire 6061 clamps out of. And that's before we even machine the titanium.

The Gen 1's had a few (we're talking well sub 1% here, and not like the scythe failure 1% lol) slippage issues on 300 WSM and 300 win mag. So after making the rings for 2 years it was decided to improve them so running a bigger magnum on a tikka wouldn't have any issues. That's how we landed on the low profile titanium clamp, and the cleaner more modern looking 45 degree corner cut vs the old radius on the Gen 1 rings.

We (SRS) do our best to test our products before we bring them to market. A good example would be that I was the guinea pig at the Belt MT NRL Hunter with our new Grim suppressor brake to make sure it performed how it should, and didn't come loose. It did great so we moved into production. We also shot it a bunch with "rapid fire" on a 300 PRC.



Ken

Did the slipping rings not have the recoil pins installed?

 

[Salmon River Solutions]

Did the slipping rings not have the recoil pins installed?

They did, but I think we had some people that weren't getting them to the correct torque. Or not following the instructions how you are supposed to go back and forth getting the dovetail bolts snug, then tighten them back and forth until you hit torque spec consistently on both.

Ken

 

[Mikido]

I had an experience with the rear sportsmatch ring on my 300wsm. Only the front has the recoil lug, the rear doesn’t. The ring slipped forward on the gun, with the scope maintaining position. I remedied it, but it took a few hundred rounds to move to the point i noticed.

 

[BCsteve]

I had an experience with the rear sportsmatch ring on my 300wsm. Only the front has the recoil lug, the rear doesn’t. The ring slipped forward on the gun, with the scope maintaining position. I remedied it, but it took a few hundred rounds to move to the point i noticed.

The front ring didn’t move, the scope didn’t move but the mass of the rear ring clamped to the scope and receiver was enough to slip forward under recoil?!

 

[Mikido]

The front ring didn’t move, the scope didn’t move but the mass of the rear ring clamped to the scope and receiver was enough to slip forward under recoil?!

Correct. And the gun is braked. The ring moved 1/2” forward over ~400 rounds. I was pulling my hair out with small changes in poi over that timeline.

It taught me that “ring marks” are really slip marks