Ultralight 12 gauge or 20 gauge

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Been mulling over spending a lot more than I normally do on firearm. I currently have a pump 12 thats over 7.5 lbs and just kinda getting tired of lugging it around for miles for upland.

Looking at the 12 gauge Benelli Montefeltro Ultralight or the older ultralight for basically my do-all shotgun. Im looking for something at just about 6lb, and initially was pretty much sold on the Franchi Affinity in 20 gauge since it seems to be reliable and hits that 6lb mark. But after looking at the Montefeltro, I'm wondering what would I be gaining by going with Affinity. There's of course recoil but I can shoot lighter loads if needed, and I'm not really recoil sensitive.

I also hunt rabbits and I'm always shooting into some dense, tall grass. I'm worried that some of the shots I've taken with my current 12 that have resulted in a fast, ethical harvest would not be so with a 20. 30 yards-ish range I'd estimate.

So basically my thought process is why go 20 when I can get a 12 with the same weight and be confident with my rabbit hunting, and have it also be great for upland, ducks, geese and deer? Any thoughts? The Montefeltro UL 20 gauge is also sort of appealing. Its 5 lbs which is maybe too light. I'm still fairly new to hunting but diving in hard, so forgive any naive comments, and feel free to tell me if I'm off base with anything. I'd probably get the Montefeltro cerakoted too since rusting is the one thing I'd be worried about when waterfowling.
 
Been mulling over spending a lot more than I normally do on firearm. I currently have a pump 12 thats over 7.5 lbs and just kinda getting tired of lugging it around for miles for upland.

Looking at the 12 gauge Benelli Montefeltro Ultralight or the older ultralight for basically my do-all shotgun. Im looking for something at just about 6lb, and initially was pretty much sold on the Franchi Affinity in 20 gauge since it seems to be reliable and hits that 6lb mark. But after looking at the Montefeltro, I'm wondering what would I be gaining by going with Affinity. There's of course recoil but I can shoot lighter loads if needed, and I'm not really recoil sensitive.

I also hunt rabbits and I'm always shooting into some dense, tall grass. I'm worried that some of the shots I've taken with my current 12 that have resulted in a fast, ethical harvest would not be so with a 20. 30 yards-ish range I'd estimate.

So basically my thought process is why go 20 when I can get a 12 with the same weight and be confident with my rabbit hunting, and have it also be great for upland, ducks, geese and deer? Any thoughts? The Montefeltro UL 20 gauge is also sort of appealing. Its 5 lbs which is maybe too light. I'm still fairly new to hunting but diving in hard, so forgive any naive comments, and feel free to tell me if I'm off base with anything. I'd probably get the Montefeltro cerakoted too since rusting is the one thing I'd be worried about when waterfowling.

You can get some pretty heavy 20 gauge loads now days and probably get the performance you are looking for in a smaller frame lighter gun.


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You can get some pretty heavy 20 gauge loads now days and probably get the performance you are looking for in a smaller frame lighter gun.


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I've considered that too. I wonder about the cost though. I got these Kent steel 6 shot shells for $13. I'll have to look into what the equivalent would be for a 20 gauge. It's definitely something I should look into
 
If you can find a used Franchi 48, those are great lightweight shotguns.

As far as your concern about rabbit hunting, if you are using the same size shot the only thing you are giving up going from a 12 to a 20 is the number of pellets going downrange. The velocities are the same. So, if the rabbit is in the pattern it is just as dead as with a 12.
 
If you can find a used Franchi 48, those are great lightweight shotguns.

As far as your concern about rabbit hunting, if you are using the same size shot the only thing you are giving up going from a 12 to a 20 is the number of pellets going downrange. The velocities are the same. So, if the rabbit is in the pattern it is just as dead as with a 12.
I've heard good things about the 48, thanks!
 
If you are set on going super light, I would go 20 gauge. You are going to give up performance, especially when shooting non tox at waterfowl, but you will likely regret a super light 12 gauge for waterfowl. Light 12 gauges with heavy 3" rounds pack a punch. Follow up shots and your shoulder will suffer. I would seriously consider doing a range day with a duck hunting load and a light gun before I made that purchase.

BTW, Buddy has a 20 gauge montefeltro as his duck gun. It is an awesome gun and he is very good with it. I typically have more chances at an effective 3rd round with my 12 gauge, and can pull down more warry birds that flare early. But for 1-2 shots on decoying birds there is not much difference between us.
 
If you are set on going super light, I would go 20 gauge. You are going to give up performance, especially when shooting non tox at waterfowl, but you will likely regret a super light 12 gauge for waterfowl. Light 12 gauges with heavy 3" rounds pack a punch. Follow up shots and your shoulder will suffer. I would seriously consider doing a range day with a duck hunting load and a light gun before I made that purchase.

BTW, Buddy has a 20 gauge montefeltro as his duck gun. It is an awesome gun and he is very good with it. I typically have more chances at an effective 3rd round with my 12 gauge, and can pull down more warry birds that flare early. But for 1-2 shots on decoying birds there is not much difference between us.
Yeah I wish I could find a place where I could try a few different shotguns for comparision.

I guess I could just use my pump 12 if I felt like I was going to be going for longer range duck and geese. I likely won't be walking much with it anyways in that scenario. Jump shooting is popular around here but haven't tried it yet. 20 gauge suitable for that?
 
This is interesting, the Benelli M2 Field 20 gauge is 5.7 pounds and they also make a rifled slug barrel for it. That could also be a neat option.
 
This is interesting, the Benelli M2 Field 20 gauge is 5.7 pounds and they also make a rifled slug barrel for it. That could also be a neat option.
My personal favorite is the Franchi affinity in 20, right at 5lbs, if I ever get another auto loading 20 it will be an M2 for sure. You couldn’t go wrong with that shotgun
 
Not sure where you're located, but something to consider if we ever run into an ammo shortage again, but here in California 20 gauge was damn near impossible to find and was well over $30/box from the stores that had it. I shoot a 12 gauge M2 and have yet to wish that gun was lighter.
 
Sold my M2. That systems is terrible for recoil. Much harder in my shoulder than an OU12 Cynergy.
 
Not sure where you're located, but something to consider if we ever run into an ammo shortage again, but here in California 20 gauge was damn near impossible to find and was well over $30/box from the stores that had it. I shoot a 12 gauge M2 and have yet to wish that gun was lighter.
Good point, also in CA
 
With gun weight the same, +\- 6 lb, the guns may handle a little different, but really the difference is that its harder to find 7/8oz 12ga shells, and 12ga shells take up a bit more room in a vest or pocket. Thats it. Want less recoil? Shoot 7/8oz or 1oz loads in both. Same/same.

The 12 is more versatile for using steel. If you are limited to non toxic and you dont reload, Id go 12ga for sure.

I personally dont want a 5lb gun. 6lb is plenty light and even that is light enough its noticeably harder to shoot well than a 7-8lb gun. 5lb is a very hard gun to shoot well. If anyone says they shoot a 5lb gun as well
or better than a heavier gun, its because it fits them better, not because of the weight.
 
16 or 20 gauge for upland birds. You’ll be faster on followup shots with the those than a lightweight 12.

Save the 12 for waterfowl and wary turkeys.
 
Like the thread regarding .223 for everything, you may want to check out a 28 gauge. Plenty of folks, including myself, have picked up a light semi auto in a 28 and loved it. I have 12's, 16's, 20's as well. I do have a Benelli Ultralight in a 12, love it. I really enjoy the pleasant shooting 28, and take that more often than not.
https://www.americanhunter.org/content/why-you-should-shoot-a-28-gauge/
 
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