TRT

[wapitibob]

Thanks.,. I get nervous ordering medical supplies like needles off amazon…they say they are sterile but at the same time the descriptions say for industrial or laboratory use only ( they probably have to say that i suppose..)

Use an alcohol wipe on everything, generously.

 

[gostovp]

Is a 1/2" 27g insulin needle enough to get shallow IM in the quad/thigh and delts?

 

[One300wsm]

Just remember once you’re on it,
It’s a lifetime commitment.
Better give it some good thought specially
If you’re under 55 years old +\- a few.
Your will stop producing.

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[Marble]

Just remember once you’re on it,
It’s a lifetime commitment.
Better give it some good thought specially
If you’re under 55 years old +\- a few.
Your will stop producing.

God Bless America
And Our Veterans we salute you

To help with the balls not working like they were, you can take HCG weekly.

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[timekiller13]

Is a 1/2" 27g insulin needle enough to get shallow IM in the quad/thigh and delts?

27 gauge is a SQ needle.

If doing IM you need a 22 gauge 1”. Bigger gauge equals less pressure which equals less pain. And you really need about a 1” needle to get good IM injection.

I’ve given myself all types of injections for years. 22 gauge for IM. 25 or 27 gauge for subcut.

 

[One300wsm]

To help with the balls not working like they were, you can take HCG weekly.

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That’s correct another lifetime drug you have to take if you’re worried your balls might shrink. TRT isn’t for people that already have testosterone levels between 350 and 1000. If your testosterone is low there’s other options to try before you jump into using TRT. You take TRT when there’s no other option. TRT is pretty much a lifetime commitment under most circumstances.
Im 60 years old I’ve done a substantial amount of research on it. I’m not there as of yet but getting close to using the needle.
And anyone doing this online with mail orders is a fool. Go see a real doctor in person do your research.

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[One300wsm]

10 second AI search pretty much sums it up.

Testosterone replacement therapy
(TRT) is generally considered a long-term or lifelong commitment because stopping treatment causes hormone levels to return to their original low state, often resulting in the return of symptoms. While not strictly mandatory for everyone, stopping after long-term use is difficult due to natural production suppression.

Key Considerations Regarding Lifelong Commitment:

• Permanent Suppression: Using external testosterone suppresses your body's natural production, making it difficult to stop without experiencing symptoms.
• Return of Symptoms: If TRT is stopped, your testosterone levels will drop back to their pre-treatment levels.
• Underlying Causes: If low T is caused by a temporary, treatable issue (like obesity or medication), it might not be lifelong, but for chronic, age-related decline, it is often necessary indefinitely.
• Long-Term Management: TRT requires ongoing monitoring of blood levels and potential side effects, such as acne, increased blood pressure, or fertility issues.

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[One300wsm]

My levels were in the low 400’s as well but I turned 30 last year. Which is crazy because I work out 6 days a week- legit workout and my wife is a nutritionist so I eat nothing but organic Whole Foods and basically zero processed foods and sugar but… in my early teens and 20’s I had an addiction problem to basically everything and I think that had a big effect on my hormones in my formative years. I also have hormone issues in my family so with all that stacked up my dr and I decided it would be good to start it. Just started yesterday as well so we’ll see how it goes. I’m a little nervous at the thought that I could potentially be taking this for like 60+ years and it’s hard to find good data on super long term use of test but recent studies and the most recent fda panel have put my mind more at ease. I mean it’s just putting something in my body that I already have


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400 is well with in range for total testosterone.
Your free testosterone levels are what you need to check.
And what you’re shooting up is synthetic, it’s not real testosterone.
Not once on here have I seen anyone say anything about free testosterone it’s what matters do your body a favor do some research don’t be looking for advice here for your health and for sure not for TRT.

• Total Testosterone: Sum of all testosterone, including that bound to proteins (SHBG and albumin).
• Free Testosterone: Unbound, bioavailable form that enters cells to exert effects like muscle growth and libido.
• Normal Ranges:
  • Total Testosterone (Adult Men):Generally 300 to 1,000 ng/dL.
  • Free Testosterone (Adult Men): Varies by age, roughly
  • 5–20 pg/mL (e.g., 20–<25 years: (5.25–20.7 pg/mL).
  • Significance: Total testosterone indicates overall supply, while Free Testosterone measures usable hormone. Free T is often checked when total levels are borderline or when SHBG abnormalities are suspected.

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[IdahoJoe29]

400 is well with in range for total testosterone
Your free testosterone levels are what you need to check. And what you’re shooting up is synthetic it’s not real testosterone. Not once on here have I seen anyone say anything about there free testosterone it’s what matters do your body a favor do some research don’t be looking for advice here for sure for TRT.

• Total Testosterone: Sum of all testosterone, including that bound to proteins (SHBG and albumin).
• Free Testosterone: Unbound, bioavailable form that enters cells to exert effects like muscle growth and libido.
• Normal Ranges:
  • Total Testosterone (Adult Men):Generally 300 to 1,000 ng/dL.
  • Free Testosterone (Adult Men): Varies by age, roughly 5–20 pg/mL (e.g., 20–mL).

I understand all of this. Trust me I’ve done a ton of research on this. I am not taking testosterone I’ve decided against it. But I have to tell you that low 400’s for a 30 year old male is not “normal range”. When my 60 year old father has higher total and free t levels that I do at 30 than I do not consider that normal. I think there is a lot of research that will hopefully be coming out in the near future that will show all the garbage that men in my generation have been exposed to and fed has dramatically effected our endocrine system.


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[One300wsm]

I understand all of this. Trust me I’ve done a ton of research on this. I am not taking testosterone I’ve decided against it. But I have to tell you that low 400’s for a 30 year old male is not “normal range”. When my 60 year old father has higher total and free t levels that I do at 30 than I do not consider that normal. I think there is a lot of research that will hopefully be coming out in the near future that will show all the garbage that men in my generation have been exposed to and fed has dramatically effected our endocrine system.


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I edited my reply.
Did you get your free testosterone checked this is what actually matters. You’re not going to feel any difference between 400 and a 1000.
Now unless your shooting up 10 times that every day like body builders and athletes you will fell it for sure and you will die with heart issues unless your lucky.

 

[IdahoJoe29]

I edited my reply.
Did you get your free testosterone checked this is what actually matters. You’re not going to feel any difference between 400 and a 1000.
Now unless your shooting up 10 times that every day like body builders and athletes you will fell it for sure and you will die with heart issues unless your lucky.

Yeah buddy I did. Free t was at 9.4 ng/dl. Showing reference range is 4.3-24 ng/dl. Still in the “normal” range but I would argue again low for my age. Either way I’ve decided that since I am at a young age I will just keep working hard and trying to maintain levels and dealing with the downsides that I expressed. Just don’t feel right about being on t for potentially 50-60 years


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[HairyScandinavian]

I understand all of this. Trust me I’ve done a ton of research on this. I am not taking testosterone I’ve decided against it. But I have to tell you that low 400’s for a 30 year old male is not “normal range”. When my 60 year old father has higher total and free t levels that I do at 30 than I do not consider that normal. I think there is a lot of research that will hopefully be coming out in the near future that will show all the garbage that men in my generation have been exposed to and fed has dramatically effected our endocrine system.


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I'm turning 50 this year. Went through a heavy lifting stint in my 30's and kept trying to get the doctors to gimme test, glad they refused.... But anyway I was 280ish to 320ish from probably 34 years old to 44 or so and haven't tested since. Zero negative symptoms. I was roughly 185 to 190 lbs bodyweight pulling 475 lb deadlifts for reps (repped 405 for 33 reps on a dare, 10 reps of 315 squats to the floor, good bedroom etiquette in my pants, etc. Plenty of energy, two jobs because I couldn't sit still. Seemed pretty normal to me. Now that I'm getting older and quit working out the last 6 years I may revisit the issue and get tested again, tired a lot now.

 

[IdahoJoe29]

I'm turning 50 this year. Went through a heavy lifting stint in my 30's and kept trying to get the doctors to gimme test, glad they refused.... But anyway I was 280ish to 320ish from probably 34 years old to 44 or so and haven't tested since. Zero negative symptoms. I was roughly 185 to 190 lbs bodyweight pulling 475 lb deadlifts for reps (repped 405 for 33 reps on a dare, 10 reps of 315 squats to the floor, good bedroom etiquette in my pants, etc. Plenty of energy, two jobs because I couldn't sit still. Seemed pretty normal to me. Now that I'm getting older and quit working out the last 6 years I may revisit the issue and get tested again, tired a lot now.

Wait I’m confused so you did get on test or no?


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[One300wsm]

Yeah buddy I did. Free t was at 9.4 ng/dl. Showing reference range is 4.3-24 ng/dl. Still in the “normal” range but I would argue again low for my age. Either way I’ve decided that since I am at a young age I will just keep working hard and trying to maintain levels and dealing with the downsides that I expressed. Just don’t feel right about being on t for potentially 50-60 years


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What time of the day did you give blood for testing?

 

[HairyScandinavian]

Wait I’m confused so you did get on test or no?


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Nope. Docs balked because I felt fine and said there's no reason to do it. I just wanted to lift more and get stronger. I may revisit now though, no idea where I'm at.

 

[IdahoJoe29]

What time of the day did you give blood for testing?

Morning 12 hour fasted I believe


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[IdahoJoe29]

Nope. Docs balked because I felt fine and said there's no reason to do it. I just wanted to lift more and get stronger. I may revisit now though, no idea where I'm at.

Copy. Yeah I mean if you feel great I don’t see a reason to


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[One300wsm]

Morning 12 hour fasted I believe


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7am-10am should be your highest T levels

 

[IdahoJoe29]

7am-10am should be your highest T levels

Yeah that’s why most dr will have you pull blood in the am. Should be a more accurate picture of what’s going on


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[One300wsm]

Yeah that’s why most dr will have you pull blood in the am. Should be a more accurate picture of what’s going on


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Good luck man stay positive, work hard and get plenty of sleep and don’t stress.