Trouble killing coyotes

[omicron1792]

You say there are zero stands you make where can see over a mile yet you spew this BS. You know you just cannot respond or say anything when you’re just guessing, right ?

Merry Christmas my man and happy hunting.

 

[Skerhunter]

A couple things I see posted on here I totally disagree with.

Coyotes will come from a long ways. Day or night.

If I want coyotes to stop that are coming in I pause the call.

Volume. If a coyote can’t hear it, it’s not coming in. Play loud.

Yes and No on this one.

I hunt mainly farm country (square sections with a road every mile). Sometimes they come from a decent ways away (1-2 miles) and cross roads, but a majority of the time you need to be in tight (preferably within a half mile at least on the same section). Since you are so close blasting distress to start your stand can spook them (play loud enough for them to hear it and that’s it). More open country I agree, crank it up!

Not uncommon to need to move closer to call them in. Whether that’s walk another 500 yards closer or get in the truck and move to the next section.

Not sure exactly what kind of country the OP is calling…

 

[dirtytough]

Yes and No on this one.

I hunt mainly farm country (square sections with a road every mile). Sometimes they come from a decent ways away (1-2 miles) and cross roads, but a majority of the time you need to be in tight (preferably within a half mile at least on the same section). Since you are so close blasting distress to start your stand can spook them (play loud enough for them to hear it and that’s it). More open country I agree, crank it up!

Not uncommon to need to move closer to call them in. Whether that’s walk another 500 yards closer or get in the truck and move to the next section.

Not sure exactly what kind of country the OP is calling…

I hunt farm country also. I guess to me farm country is open country?

As for the sound I start around 35% of max. After 15-20 seconds of not seeing something I crank it up.

If I start with vocals I start with the sound pretty high.



Here’s a TLDR of my thoughts.

Volume mimics proximity. The louder it is the closer it might sound to them. The closer it sounds the better chance you have of them coming in.

If you are close enough it’s hard not to call them in.

Also if they can’t hear it they definitely aren’t coming in. Maybe a coyote that is 800 yards away doesn’t want to play. But a triple that is 1500 yards away does. If the triple can’t hear it they aren’t coming in.

The more coyotes that hear it the better chance something comes in. I personally believe it’s as simple as that.

Tons of ways to call in and kill coyotes. My numbers increased once I quit fluctuating the sound and played louder. It sounds like in your part of the country that is a dumb move and will spook them.

 

[SteepNdeep]

I hunt farm country also. I guess to me farm country is open country?

As for the sound I start around 35% of max. After 15-20 seconds of not seeing something I crank it up.

If I start with vocals I start with the sound pretty high.



Here’s a TLDR of my thoughts.

Volume mimics proximity. The louder it is the closer it might sound to them. The closer it sounds the better chance you have of them coming in.

If you are close enough it’s hard not to call them in.

Also if they can’t hear it they definitely aren’t coming in. Maybe a coyote that is 800 yards away doesn’t want to play. But a triple that is 1500 yards away does. If the triple can’t hear it they aren’t coming in.

The more coyotes that hear it the better chance something comes in. I personally believe it’s as simple as that.

Tons of ways to call in and kill coyotes. My numbers increased once I quit fluctuating the sound and played louder. It sounds like in your part of the country that is a dumb move and will spook them.

Agreed and best advice given thus far!

 

[Arkyvarminter]

Thermal hunting isn’t what it once was. Coyotes are adapting to it. But it’s still generally more productive than day hunting (coming from a day hunter).

Coyotes move, a lot. Like more than probably any other animal in the area. You can call a spot 5x and not kill one until the 5th time when the stars align. I think it’s just a game of odds and you need alot of places to go. Even with 30 places to go I find that 5% of those spots will produce 90% of your coyotes. Some places are just doggy and I don’t always I understand why.

Yeah and alot times people aren't calling anything in and think they are doing something wrong when there isn't any coyotes around....

 

[omicron1792]

Yeah and alot times people aren't calling anything in and think they are doing something wrong when there isn't any coyotes around....

Amen. Biggest fail for most. Most just don’t have enough property. If they aren’t denning on your property you have to wait till they come through

 

[bac078]

So thermal is totally a learning curve and not the slam dunk that youtube makes it seem. I have seen them circle 600 yards to come down wind. So the way i do it is anticipate where they are and where they are ginna circle from. Then make sure you put a crosswind on your set. They dont wanna come from up wind.

Second, i dont use prey calls... or if i do it is RARE. Every jackwad in 4 close counties blast the same rabbit or woodpecker squealer.. the dogs learn quick to run away from that sound. I run usual coyote sounds, lone howler, or a duo and let territorial insticts bring them in. Much higher success.

I also go sit in a property and wait for a location call from a few dogs, cut the distance in half, and then do my own call mimicking what they did. They'll still circle downwind so know your farm youre hunting.

And patience. I sit MIMINUM 30 min... they are weary, and may take their sweet time before coming in.

Bobcats, i do use a prey and decoy. But only after I throw a cat growl. And when i do a prey i do a squirrel or rat or bird distress. I stay away from rabbits for the same reason mentioned above.

 

[Arkyvarminter]

So thermal is totally a learning curve and not the slam dunk that youtube makes it seem. I have seen them circle 600 yards to come down wind. So the way i do it is anticipate where they are and where they are ginna circle from. Then make sure you put a crosswind on your set. They dont wanna come from up wind.

Second, i dont use prey calls... or if i do it is RARE. Every jackwad in 4 close counties blast the same rabbit or woodpecker squealer.. the dogs learn quick to run away from that sound. I run usual coyote sounds, lone howler, or a duo and let territorial insticts bring them in. Much higher success.

I also go sit in a property and wait for a location call from a few dogs, cut the distance in half, and then do my own call mimicking what they did. They'll still circle downwind so know your farm youre hunting.

And patience. I sit MIMINUM 30 min... they are weary, and may take their sweet time before coming in.

Bobcats, i do use a prey and decoy. But only after I throw a cat growl. And when i do a prey i do a squirrel or rat or bird distress. I stay away from rabbits for the same reason mentioned above.

I'm not having much luck so far although I haven't been alot. The bayou I hunt is very low, no rain, and the coyotes are hunting in the woods mostly. When we get some rain, like we usually do, it pushes them out in the fields and thickets more. I'll admit, i have never called in the timber but I'm willing to try...

 

[bac078]

Calling in timber is TOUGH. Usually lots of terrain and ditches here in MO. So even if you can call them in, they have lots of features to dip and hide in. Thermal i coax them out into a field or field edge. Daytime I do the same or sit up like im deer hunting... ie find a spot amd sit there waaaay long. So many things that make too much noise in the timber. As well as deer. So you bust out a bunch of deer, the dogs will run away too.

 

[Arkyvarminter]

Amen. Biggest fail for most. Most just don’t have enough property. If they aren’t denning on your property you have to wait till they come through

My family farms so we have ground to hunt..one particular area has coyotes but they are in the middle of nowhere...just wide open fields. They den in the bank of a big ditch that runs through. I really haven't tried this area because I don't know if they will come out of den when calling? Difficult to set up there and the coyotes not know it but I"m going to catch the wind just right and maybe sneak in before daylight..anyone ever called them out of their den?