Triathlon/Marathon/Endurance Sports Thread

I did my first 50k this past Saturday and have spent the week recovering. It went well overall and I am happy with my performance and race strategy. Plenty I could improve on though!

I read Training for the Uphill Athlete and applied some of the concepts to my training. Basically, I did ALL of my training below my AeT based on a treadmill test I completed. I added some body weight strength training and stretching twice a week, but it wasn't very focused or intentional.

I'd like to commit more time to the strength training, so I purchased the Military Athlete Foundational Training Plan from Evoke Endurance. Has anyone else tried this plan or do a similar training style on their own? I'd be interested in feedback or suggestions. My goal is to get stronger while maintaining a solid aerobic base.
 
Got my first race this upcoming weekend (Oly tri) and then Half IM on July 20th. Getting both excited and nervous about these races. Feel like I'm adequately trained but can always be better prepared.

Good luck to all those who have any type of races this summer!
Trust your training, it’s the hard part and the race is the fun part!
 
Running a 50K Ultra in two weeks and the Leadville 50 mile run in July! Training has been daunting, but my fitness is insane. I have always been a very fit person, but adding in long distance running to my regime has been a game changer.
The Leadville 50 is a great sleeper race that somehow hasn’t blown up like most of the lifetime/leadville series. It’s so much better than the Leadville 100 which is all notoriety and a very boring race/route.
 
The Leadville 50 is a great sleeper race that somehow hasn’t blown up like most of the lifetime/leadville series. It’s so much better than the Leadville 100 which is all notoriety and a very boring race/route.
Agree 100%, Leadville is boring but not as boring as javelina in Arizona, unless they changed that one holy crap just a bunch of rolling loops again and again and again. I did one in Ohio once that was surprisingly technical and tough. I thought it would be easy because….Ohio but nope.
 
Thank you. I always go in with a Goal A, B, and C

Goal A - finish
Goal B - do better than previous times
Coal C (which is for me a VERY high bar) - try to get in the top 25% of my age group 45-49.
Goal A - accomplished
Goal B - Failed. About 10min slower overall which was a huge disappointment. Found areas I really need to work on over the next couple weeks/months.
Goal C - Not even close


On to the next event!
 
Goal A - accomplished
Goal B - Failed. About 10min slower overall which was a huge disappointment. Found areas I really need to work on over the next couple weeks/months.
Goal C - Not even close


On to the next event!
It’s good to have goals but in regard to your goal “B”, yeah it sucks when you train for months and things don’t come together on race day. I’d urge you to try not to get too hung up on those. I spent the better part of 11-12 years doing endurance races, ultra marathons, Ironmans, marathons, mountain runs, mountain biking, cycling, xc skiing, all of it. I loved it but as dumb as it sounds looking back, I really spiraled downward every time I didn’t hit those exact goals.

It really took the fun out of a lot of it for me, I was extremely competitive and not fun to be around after races that didn’t work out. I’d fight with my girlfriends and stuff. It was stupid. Looking back, I wish I’d enjoyed myself more because all these years later, my memories are of being pissed off and disappointed, not being happy about doing Ironmans and ultra runs. I had an injury a while back that makes it impossible for me to do that stuff, now I really wish I could do it again but I can’t. Back then, I never foresaw that injury and I figured Ironmans would
Be something I’d do every year forever and toss in a few ultras too. Not how things worked out though.

I remember at ironaman Arizona one year I trained so hard, made a lot of sacrifices, was down to 170lb instead of my normal 185, I’d run a 3 hour marathon 3 weeks earlier as my last long run, 5-6 hour bike rides each week, interval sessions on my trainer, 5 am masters swims 5 days a week before work, I think at the time I was putting in 25-30 hours of training a week and loving it.

The day before that race it was like 60 degrees and a cool breeze, the day of the race it ended up in the 90s, stiff winds all day on the out and back hike course. On that day, things just got me. The 2.4 mile swim went well, I broke an hour for the first time, cruised the transition like nothing but within an hour on the bike I was struggling, maybe nutrition, maybe heat I don’t know but that was the longest 112 miles I’d ever done on the bike, I was just miserable the whole time. I think my final time was like 5h 30m which is a solid time but it kicked my ass, ideally the ride would be an easy cruise like it always was when I was training.

Anyways I got out on the run course and the first 10 miles were steady, by the time I hit the half way I was already 2 hours into the run, I just got slower from there in the end I finished the race in 10 hours 57 minutes which is absolutely a solid Ironman time.

It was about half an hour slower than my PR time though and I’d expected to break the PR at the race. My dad was at the finish line to cheer me on and he was pumped for me but I was so dIssapointed that I took that experience from my dad. Now I rarely see my dad and he’s 75, I wish I’d just chilled with him and enjoyed being there.

It sucks but the majority of my memories of racing are like that. Very high highs but extremely low lows when they happened. I got sucked into a trap of thinking every race needed to be a PR when in reality, it just didn’t matter I was never going to the Olympics and I was never going to get to quit my day job to race for money. I wish I could go back and just sit on the grass with my dad and have a few beers while watching other people finish. Instead I acted like a little bitch, changed my flight to the very first thing in the morning and left town to go home and be sad.

Feels sort of strange typing things out but the biggest regrets I have in life seem to be based on endurance racing. lol, what a waste of time, family and happiness. So stupid of me.
 
Thread has been great and have been able to connect with a few folks to give tips. I turn 40 in the fall so am trying to really keep goals growing. I’ve always been fit but started swimming for work last year and signed up for an Alcatraz Open Water Swim in August. Plan was for the Big Bend 50 miler in January but pushed it too hard and needed up with Shingles—-they suck. Now signed up for the Bandera 50k in January.
 
Thanks for sharing @thinhorn_AK . This perspective is helpful for me as I've also found myself getting more upset about poor performances than I should.
In reality, your “poor” performances probably aren’t really that poor at all, just maybe not as good as you’d imagined during your training. I think in the ~ 12 years I raced, things probably really came together 10-15 times which dosent seem like a lot but in reality I had some races like the Ironman I was talking about earlier where I really had a hard day and still put up a finish time faster than probably 90% of the people out there that day. There’s folks who walk the whole marathon and struggle to make the 17 hour cut off. I knew a girl at the time that trained her ass off and finished in like 16:11. She was stoked, super happy while I was pissed even though I went under 11 hours.

Like I said, if I could do it all over again, I would have just enjoyed it more. Another example of a wasted opportunity: I had a girlfriend back in like 2009 or so. She was all about triathlons and marathons but she wasn’t super fast. We went to the Ironman Wisconsin with the plan to just do it together, meet up after the swim, then bike and run with each other. It sounded great until I got to the race.

We stuck together and had a good time (in retrospect) but during the race I was frustrated, complained a bit etc. we finished that one in like 12h 25m which was good for her, later I just had the attitude of “it was ok, but next time……”. It really took the fun out of it all but I didn’t see it at the time.
 
It’s good to have goals but in regard to your goal “B”, yeah it sucks when you train for months and things don’t come together on race day. I’d urge you to try not to get too hung up on those. I spent the better part of 11-12 years doing endurance races, ultra marathons, Ironmans, marathons, mountain runs, mountain biking, cycling, xc skiing, all of it. I loved it but as dumb as it sounds looking back, I really spiraled downward every time I didn’t hit those exact goals.

It really took the fun out of a lot of it for me, I was extremely competitive and not fun to be around after races that didn’t work out. I’d fight with my girlfriends and stuff. It was stupid. Looking back, I wish I’d enjoyed myself more because all these years later, my memories are of being pissed off and disappointed, not being happy about doing Ironmans and ultra runs. I had an injury a while back that makes it impossible for me to do that stuff, now I really wish I could do it again but I can’t. Back then, I never foresaw that injury and I figured Ironmans would
Be something I’d do every year forever and toss in a few ultras too. Not how things worked out though.

I remember at ironaman Arizona one year I trained so hard, made a lot of sacrifices, was down to 170lb instead of my normal 185, I’d run a 3 hour marathon 3 weeks earlier as my last long run, 5-6 hour bike rides each week, interval sessions on my trainer, 5 am masters swims 5 days a week before work, I think at the time I was putting in 25-30 hours of training a week and loving it.

The day before that race it was like 60 degrees and a cool breeze, the day of the race it ended up in the 90s, stiff winds all day on the out and back hike course. On that day, things just got me. The 2.4 mile swim went well, I broke an hour for the first time, cruised the transition like nothing but within an hour on the bike I was struggling, maybe nutrition, maybe heat I don’t know but that was the longest 112 miles I’d ever done on the bike, I was just miserable the whole time. I think my final time was like 5h 30m which is a solid time but it kicked my ass, ideally the ride would be an easy cruise like it always was when I was training.

Anyways I got out on the run course and the first 10 miles were steady, by the time I hit the half way I was already 2 hours into the run, I just got slower from there in the end I finished the race in 10 hours 57 minutes which is absolutely a solid Ironman time.

It was about half an hour slower than my PR time though and I’d expected to break the PR at the race. My dad was at the finish line to cheer me on and he was pumped for me but I was so dIssapointed that I took that experience from my dad. Now I rarely see my dad and he’s 75, I wish I’d just chilled with him and enjoyed being there.

It sucks but the majority of my memories of racing are like that. Very high highs but extremely low lows when they happened. I got sucked into a trap of thinking every race needed to be a PR when in reality, it just didn’t matter I was never going to the Olympics and I was never going to get to quit my day job to race for money. I wish I could go back and just sit on the grass with my dad and have a few beers while watching other people finish. Instead I acted like a little bitch, changed my flight to the very first thing in the morning and left town to go home and be sad.

Feels sort of strange typing things out but the biggest regrets I have in life seem to be based on endurance racing. lol, what a waste of time, family and happiness. So stupid of me.
Great stuff and appreciate the insights! Meaningful words to read!
 
Been a while since I posted. Mostly a lurker, but enjoy reading. New to ultras and endurance events.

Marathon- May 17, 2025- 1700ft gain, 4:40:??... Was stupidly humid, I went for my goal I trained for all winter and spring, knowing better but too dumb to care. Cheese started sliding off the cracker about half way. Was about 6min behind goal pace. Got mad and started walking where I should've ran.

Raced a hot humid half three weeks later at 2:06:?? Not my best half distance time, but the only half I've truly raced. I'll take it three weeks post Marathon, and in June in NC.

Upcoming-
  • Oct 18, 2025- Tune-up race. Uwharrie Goldrush 50k. Should be around 5414ft gain
  • Nov 15, 2025- Looking Glass 100k. IF the course goes as planned (Hurricane Helene damage pending), 13,500? gain.
  • March 21, 2026- Blackbeard's Revenge 100mi.............250ft gain, but nearly 100% exposure to sun/elements/wind, and all the salt/sand one could want.

Currently training for the the 100k event. The plan calls for a 50k on Oct 18, which conveniently is when the Uwharrie races are. Depending on how all of the above go, I'm looking towards either the Uwharrie 100mi or Beast of the East 100mi fall of 2026. The 100k race/recovery will eat into the training block of the 100mi, but I'm not too worried about that, as I HOPING my fitness will be about on par where it should be for the 100mi block, after recovery from the 100k.

I may very well HATE the 100mi distance, but I have very few doubts of finishing a 50k now within 98% of the cutoffs for a given race around here...assuming my health/injury status is good. I have zero aspirations/expectations of every being a podium finisher, so actually RACING a 50k or marathon is not intriguing to me anymore. I do enjoy the half marathon distance because you can go all out for a PR and the suffering doesn't last long.

The 100k-100mi intrigues me from a "can I finish this" standpoint.
 
^ I ran a Uwharrie 50k (it was in the Spring though)—coming from Montana (my brother lives in SC) I thought it would be easier; it wasn't easy :D

Funny story. My brother (who had never run a 50k) and I started towards the rear, pretty large group of runners. Anyways not even 10 minutes into the race there was a pretty big traffic jam—I surveyed the situation and could see that someone at the very front made a wrong turn and 50-ish people followed, all going the wrong way :). We made the correct turn and led the race for at least a good minute or so before 50-ish people passed us :ROFLMAO:
 
^ I ran a Uwharrie 50k (it was in the Spring though)—coming from Montana (my brother lives in SC) I thought it would be easier; it wasn't easy :D

Funny story. My brother (who had never run a 50k) and I started towards the rear, pretty large group of runners. Anyways not even 10 minutes into the race there was a pretty big traffic jam—I surveyed the situation and could see that someone at the very front made a wrong turn and 50-ish people followed, all going the wrong way :). We made the correct turn and led the race for at least a good minute or so before 50-ish people passed us :ROFLMAO:

haha I've heard the Uwharrie courses are a lot harder than folks give them credit for. Constant up and down and not much room to get in a groove.

Mustve been the UFOREA 50k. It's not too far from my house. Need to get down there and get after it some. I can only imagine the timber rattlers and copperheads along the way right now. 1751040964414.png
 
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