Trespassing = $$$ paid to the landowner?

[BRTreedogs]

I thought the judicial system was already paid for by taxes.
Why would they be entitled to money over the property owner??

 

[Q_Sertorius]

In the case stated in the OP what would be considered “injured”, “injury”, or “injuries”?

The act of trespassing?

And I understand that may be a case to case basis.

Serious question. Thanks.

Trespassing is the damage. You are interfering with and damaging my property rights when you enter my property without permission. If you can walk all over my land as long as you don't do any other damage, then you have diminished my right to quiet enjoyment of my property. If I cannot exclude people from my property, then I don't really own it.

In American law, we think of property rights as a "bundle of sticks." The five main sticks are typically identified as:
Possession: The right to occupy the property.
Control: The right to use or alter the property within legal limits.
Exclusion: The right to prevent others from entering or using the property.
Enjoyment: The right to use the property in any legal manner.
Disposition: The right to sell, will, or transfer ownership.

 

[BRTreedogs]

Trespassing is the damage. You are interfering with and damaging my property rights when you enter my property without permission. If you can walk all over my land as long as you don't do any other damage, then you have diminished my right to quiet enjoyment of my property. If I cannot exclude people from my property, then I don't really own it.

In American law, we think of property rights as a "bundle of sticks." The five main sticks are typically identified as:
Possession: The right to occupy the property.
Control: The right to use or alter the property within legal limits.
Exclusion: The right to prevent others from entering or using the property.
Enjoyment: The right to use the property in any legal manner.
Disposition: The right to sell, will, or transfer ownership.

Exclusion is a big deal for me.
And the entire reason for me to buy property.
I need my space.

 

[5MilesBack]

Exclusion is a big deal for me.
And the entire reason for me to buy property.
I need my space.

I remember a few decades ago telling someone I've always wanted a 100k acre ranch. And they asked "what on earth would you do with a 100k acre ranch? My answer......."fence people out".

 

[BR549]

Sounds a lot like paying a trespass fee only its after the perp has been busted acting in bad faith.

Begging forgiveness is easier than asking permission.
...if the landowner is nice enough to take you to court rather than apply immediate force or creativity

 

[RS_Non-Res]

I thought the judicial system was already paid for by taxes.
Why would they be entitled to money over the property owner??

Because of the damage to the concept of property rights and the damage to civilization.
And as disincentive to future acts and as punishment.

 

[Cubby]

With all this property ownership talk going on how on earth do squatters get away with what they do and the police can't legally do anything about it?

 

[Q_Sertorius]

With all this property ownership talk going on how on earth do squatters get away with what they do and the police can't legally do anything about it?

Because some states pass laws that erode property rights.

 

[Cubby]

Thank you for the answer

 

[TheTone]

When the Idaho trespass law was changed a few years ago one of the additions was allowing landowners to file civil suits against trespassers for any amount they want in addition to the criminal part of trespassing. I know of an individual near me that killed a big bull while trespassing and the landowner essentially told him pay up or I’ll turn you in. The trespasser whipped out $800, paid the landowner and left with his bull and no criminal charges. Neighboring landowners were pissed at the situation

 

[Lowell]

Hunters sentenced, fined after trespassing on ranch in Owyhee County

After the Nicholson family reported four hunters on their private property in fall of 2025, the men were sentenced and fined for recreational trespassing.

hp.taboola.com

Never heard of this scenario before, thoughts?

The Land owners are wealthy, they are trying to discourage hunting on their land. A big reason they bought it was for hunting. The Nicholsons were one of the original partners of Micron.

 

[WeiserBucks]

The Land owners are wealthy, they are trying to discourage hunting on their land. A big reason they bought it was for hunting. The Nicholsons were one of the original partners of Micron.

Rich or poor the law applies.

 

[Rich M]

As a landowner, not a bad way to go.

 

[Steve300xcw]

The Land owners are wealthy, they are trying to discourage hunting on their land. A big reason they bought it was for hunting. The Nicholsons were one of the original partners of Micron.

I'm not rich, but I'd be doing the same. I didnt buy that dirt for others to run around on...

 

[WRO]

When the Idaho trespass law was changed a few years ago one of the additions was allowing landowners to file civil suits against trespassers for any amount they want in addition to the criminal part of trespassing. I know of an individual near me that killed a big bull while trespassing and the landowner essentially told him pay up or I’ll turn you in. The trespasser whipped out $800, paid the landowner and left with his bull and no criminal charges. Neighboring landowners were pissed at the situation

800.00 for a big bull, do you have any ONX pins?

I know outfitters who lease ground will charge thousands in civil cases to trespassers in Oregon.

 

[TheTone]

800.00 for a big bull, do you have any ONX pins?

I know outfitters who lease ground will charge thousands in civil cases to trespassers in Oregon.

Trespassing on the piece he got pushed off would probably cost more than $800 and absolutely result in criminal prosecution.

 

[BLJ]

Trespassing is the damage. You are interfering with and damaging my property rights when you enter my property without permission. If you can walk all over my land as long as you don't do any other damage, then you have diminished my right to quiet enjoyment of my property. If I cannot exclude people from my property, then I don't really own it.

In American law, we think of property rights as a "bundle of sticks." The five main sticks are typically identified as:
Possession: The right to occupy the property.
Control: The right to use or alter the property within legal limits.
Exclusion: The right to prevent others from entering or using the property.
Enjoyment: The right to use the property in any legal manner.
Disposition: The right to sell, will, or transfer ownership.

I believe the third one down answered my question.

Is “damage”(in your post quoted anbove) and “injured” (referring to your post #35) two different words referring to the same thing in regards to your explanation? Thanks.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I believe the third one down answered my question.

Is “damage”(in your post quoted anbove) and “injured” (referring to your post #35) two different words referring to the same thing in regards to your explanation? Thanks.

The same.

 

[BLJ]

The same.

Assumed that.

Thanks.

 

[B Harrison]

It’s better than what I did in my 20’s

First warning was stern, second time your ATV was disabled, I had some people spin up the yard at night 1 time and a mailbox beat off, but I found those people and that was resolved.
Boys momma beat his head while he reinstalled a new mailbox.

Once the rich people knew that I would plow up their yards with a farm tractor, those trespassers never came back again.

A SxS is fast, but a 100 HP tractor can make a mess.


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