Trail Ethics

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I have recently started hunting an out of state OTC area. One of the spots I like to hunt is 8 miles in on a popular trail head. The reason I hike in 8 miles is because most people seem to go in only two or three miles and its a way to get away from the crowd.

The trail runs along the top of a ridge and I was on this trail early in the morning to get to my first glassing spot before moving further in if needed. As Im hiking in, with fog, I spot another hunter walking on the trail like elmer fud. Rifle in his hands and tip towing. I stop in case he is on to something and wait like 10/15 mins. I see nothing, smell nothing, or hear nothing. I approach him slowly and he spins around with the gun in his hands, lowered, but pointed my direction. Im uncomfortable with that and we whisper a little and he said he heard some animals near by. He continues elmer fudding down the trail and I give him another 5/10 minutes.

At this point I just want to get to my spot and I figure its public land on a well used trail and im wasnt gonna sit there and wait. I walked behind him 50 yards or so until the trail split where one trail went on one side of the ridge and the other on the other side but they eveually meet back up and combine again on the middle of the ridge. He took the “better” section that has more open feeding areas and is better for glassing. I took the other trail that just goes through a bunch of bushes and trees and it curves more and is a little longer. He saw me take the other route and I could tell he sped up but I barely beat him to the part where the trails recombine. He made sure to yell I was ruining his hunt and I just shrugged my shoulders and continued on.

Am I a jerk? Or am I ok feeling like no one gets to lock down a whole trail because they were there first?
 

Btaylor

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If he was concerned enough about "his" hunting area to be yelling at you down the trail, odds are high that if you gave him a gold egg laying goose, he would have it fried before dark.
 
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I don’t think it’s a jerk move, if someone comes up the trail behind me at a faster pace I’ll move over and let them by. It’s just common courtesy. Everyone has a right to be there.
 

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Trails are like highways IMO. There is no way I could get mad at anyone on a trail for passing me.
 
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The only time I got upset because of something like this was because we were on elk, with one bugling, and were taking it easy trying to find the legal bull in a group of about 10 working through a stand of pines. A couple guys came up behind us...waited about 2 minutes...and then came up to within about 50 yards of us, and went clomping down through the brush to our left. Needless to say, they busted the elk out straight up over the ridge where we could not see them, or get a shot. Tried chasing those elk for the rest of the day, and could not catch up...

It was as if they decided if they couldn’t get to those elk ahead of us, no one was going to get them...
 
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That's a tricky one! When I have a spot in mind I go for it! I have driven 2 days, then hiked in for hours to get to "my" spot, only to find someone there! I still hunted the area and tried to use the other hunters to my advantage. I did encounter them and they weren't happy. I tried to explain my case but they didn't care saying "they were there first". I felt bad but justified my actions in my mind thinking that "they were interfering with me"! These things will happen!
 

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Happy to yield a spot if someone wants to fight about it. Even had a fella try to claim a bull once that my pop dropped the hammer on out in the wide open. Told the dude to go ahead and tag it then if he felt that strongly about it. His buddy intervened assuring him he in fact did not shoot this animal and he walked away muttering.

It’s public land. While the land is worth fighting for, these sticky situations certainly are not.
 
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Happy to yield a spot if someone wants to fight about it. Even had a fella try to claim a bull once that my pop dropped the hammer on out in the wide open. Told the dude to go ahead and tag it then if he felt that strongly about it. His buddy intervened assuring him he in fact did not shoot this animal and he walked away muttering.

It’s public land. While the land is worth fighting for, these sticky situations certainly are not.

That's just crazy!!
 
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I try to give others a wide berth. If we pass, I'll ask which way they are headed so I can avoid them. But you don't get to claim a friggin trail. If he was that concerned, he should have gotten off the trail.
 

ramont

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Public land isn't owned exclusively by any one person, if you don't like having to share it then buy your own land. I hunt public land exclusively, if somebody comes breezing through the area I want to hunt then I just accept it as part of the way things work. The only time that I get upset is when a hunter sees me on a stand and sits down within eyesight of where I'm sitting. Then I will usually get up and make as much noise as I can while I leave the area. I might even turn on my weather radio just to piss him off even more.
 

Ndstevens

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As everyone else stated, it public land. Worth all of our time to fight for, but not over. In your case it sounds like you were headed in first and if you could see him, he could see you. If he was a good dude he would have went a different route at that point but by no means were you in the wrong in my opinion. Plus you made it seem as if you still had a ways to go to reach your 8mi destination and hopefully by that point you guys would have naturally chosen different "spots" to hunt. At the same time I too have ran into this situation many times and it sucks! Makes for a frustrating moment to say the least.

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Thanks for all the replies and my thoughts are all in line with you guys. It really just motivated me to get into better shape so I can be just a little bit faster on the trail. These OTC hunts have definitely been something new for me to adjust too.
 

sndmn11

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The guy from post 6 could be the guy who was passed in post 1. It's all a matter of perspective, there's no reason why a person can't communicate with someone else on what they are intending to do.
 

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Always be polite, say 'excuse me' as you pass him.

Totally disagree. This is public land. Yes, you can be an ass and just pass him up. The right thing to do is talk to him. He was there first and that in my opinion gives him first chance. Maybe he wasn't going too far. You don't know until you discuss it. Next time beat him up the mountain.
 

BluMtn

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I usually leave the trail head before anybody else, but here lately it seems that there are more people wanting to beat me in so they get on the trail earlier. If I pass somebody I will visit with them and ask where they are going to hunt and I tell them the general area I am planning on going. If they are the same then I change my plans and tell them I will not interfere in their hunt. So far it has only happened a couple of times and it has worked out so far. I can remember back in the 70's when guys would walk up to where you were sitting and look around and sit down with you until I would get up and move.
 

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Totally disagree. This is public land. Yes, you can be an ass and just pass him up. The right thing to do is talk to him. He was there first and that in my opinion gives him first chance. Maybe he wasn't going too far. You don't know until you discuss it. Next time beat him up the mountain.

There first? I thought the guy is walking slowly down a trail.....trails are for access, correct? Anyway, maybe I do not want to talk to someone I do not know since there are so many assholes around in todays world. Yup, I guess in your opinion I would be the asshole. :love:
 
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I will go out of my way to talk to folks I encounter in the field, if for no other reason than they know I'm there, and can hopefully keep that in mind when shooting....

...did have one jerk totally flip out on me on the trail once, I was riding my four wheeler during a motorized closure day (for moose hunters only)....didn't have rifle or tags on me, but he didn't ask, just jumped out in front of my machine, screaming and flapping his arms. Had to stop and explain to him that I was evacing a hurt buddy who slipped off a log and couldn't walk...:rolleyes:
 

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There first? I thought the guy is walking slowly down a trail.....trails are for access, correct? Anyway, maybe I do not want to talk to someone I do not know since there are so many assholes around in todays world. Yup, I guess in your opinion I would be the asshole. :love:

It's called respect. If your back in 8 miles, that take a lot effort. I respect the dedication it takes to get there. If your back in that far there's usually more than on place to go, more than one place to hunt. The day is not wasted, ever.


Like I said, it's called respect. Some may call it courtesy. If you want to go, go ahead.
 
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