Total gear weight

[CMF]

I have a gerber vital and a havalon piranta, they weigh around 1.5 ounces, but those blades break way too easy,

That's why i like the outdoor edge, the blades are super tough, no problem cutting hip joints, digging eyes out, etc.

I've always been curious why everybody brings a rain jacket, but hates bringing rain pants. I get what thier saying if the forecast says it's going be good weather don't bring the rain pants, why not leave the rain jacket too??
Bring a tarp instead? Can a tarp be put up quick enough before you get soaked?
there's been a few times I got soaked because I didn't bring rain gear, nice weather can change in an instant at elevation.

If there's snow I always bring gators no matter what.

I use my rain jacket as a windbreaker too, almost everyday, especially if it's windey, if I stop to glass or eat, I'll throw it on while I'm stopped. I toted rain pants for a while, but realize I never used. The only time I took them and wore them was sep in CO at 11k and there was forecasted rain/snow and I wore them that day.
I've never packed a tarp during sep and never needed. I might pack pants and/or tarp if I knew I was going in really deep for many days, but I'm usually only 2-4 miles in and if there's significant rain in the forecast, I just plan to come out that day and regroup.

Right. Just curious why bring a rain jacket but no pants? So you only get HALF wet?

For the occasional shower, just get under some good trees and wait it out, the jacket will shed most of the rain, and like someone already mentioned, if you try to hike in the pants you'll end up sweating anyway.

I'll definitely add gators

Everyones different, I've definitely spent some mornings with wet shins, but even when I packed gaiters regularly I forgot to put them on, usually dry quick when the sun comes up. I just quit bringing them most days, but If there is significant rain or any snow in the forecast I'll pack em.

 

[packgoatguy]

I never leave without the glock.

If you must have a glock 10mm... You can save few ounces swapping your G20 for a G29, then get a G20 length barrel for it and the pinky extension on the mag if you have big hands.

Otherwise you can save a lot of ounces going to a pocket 9mm like a p365 with +p ammo.

 

[packgoatguy]

I used to leave the rain pants at home. But every year without fail I end up in weather that reminds me why I tend to bring them. Its a 10oz weight penalty... but also doubles as a second pair of pants, is part of my layering system, is my windshell for sitting and glassing, and I find they are easier to clean so I put them on if I'm getting bloody. My 3 season hunting pants are GoRuck Challenge pants, so they only weigh 10oz... so between my pants and my rain pants, I don't weigh much more than most have in one pair of pants.... but it gives me a lot more flexibility and redundancy.

An ultralight alternative I've done a few times is a rain kilt to keep my legs dry. Doubles as a small tarp/ground cloth, and doesn't get as hot and sweaty.

I'll admit though... getting wet and cold is not my favorite thing, so as its been said... you "pack your fears" I guess.

I also always pack a diy 8x10 dyneema tarp (6oz), and a diy silpoly poncho (4oz). But I don't use a pack cover. Poncho gets used very frequently... tarp very infrequently.

 

[theycallmemud]

If you must have a glock 10mm... You can save few ounces swapping your G20 for a G29, then get a G20 length barrel for it and the pinky extension on the mag if you have big hands.

Otherwise you can save a lot of ounces going to a pocket 9mm like a p365 with +p ammo.

I have g19 9mm, and a Taurus g2c 9mm. I've considered taking one of them. I shoot the g20 really well and pack it with me on every hunt. Kind of used to the weight. Going to probaly start packing the Taurus doing rifle season.

 

[theycallmemud]

I used to leave the rain pants at home. But every year without fail I end up in weather that reminds me why I tend to bring them. Its a 10oz weight penalty... but also doubles as a second pair of pants, is part of my layering system, is my windshell for sitting and glassing, and I find they are easier to clean so I put them on if I'm getting bloody. My 3 season hunting pants are GoRuck Challenge pants, so they only weigh 10oz... so between my pants and my rain pants, I don't weigh much more than most have in one pair of pants.... but it gives me a lot more flexibility and redundancy.

An ultralight alternative I've done a few times is a rain kilt to keep my legs dry. Doubles as a small tarp/ground cloth, and doesn't get as hot and sweaty.

I'll admit though... getting wet and cold is not my favorite thing, so as its been said... you "pack your fears" I guess.

I also always pack a diy 8x10 dyneema tarp (6oz), and a diy silpoly poncho (4oz). But I don't use a pack cover. Poncho gets used very frequently... tarp very infrequently