Today's NY Times article about sheep hunting

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This was a cool article and i am glad they wrote it.

From a comment:
"As for raising funds for conservation, that is a pointless argument. A civilized society will appreciate the unique value and beauty of wild ecosystems, and will do what it takes to conserve them. It's foolish to say that we can only save wild animals if we sell opportunities to kill them."

unfortunately, this statement could not be farther from the truth but actually convincing anyone who believes this otherwise is difficult.
Right up until you ask them how much of their time and money they have spent helping conserve animal's.

I personally will probably never hunt a sheep in my lifetime, but i will go to the grave donating money and time to WSF, most non hunters could never say the same.
 
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Decent article, shame it focused on only the high dollar auction tags though.

Those comments..... what a bunch of pantywaste, know-nothing blowhards.
 

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Granted, I didn't spend too much time reading the comments, but based on the several I did read, I am pleasantly surprised with the fact that a few non-hunters came to the defense of hunting. I expected a far more vitriolic response overall. As expected, there were still plenty of narrow-minded individuals preaching from their moral high horses against hunting.
 

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Awesome article. What I would do to hunt a sheep. As a 22 year old, green in the game of life, would any of you sheep hunters on here have any advice?

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Awesome article. What I would do to hunt a sheep. As a 22 year old, green in the game of life, would any of you sheep hunters on here have any advice?

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Start saving your pennies...
 

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Thanks for sharing this. Considering its the NYT I thought it shed a positive light on the hunter cosnervationist. I was also impressed by some of the non-hunter responses. Not at all suprised by the hater responses.
 

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First rule of thumb is to never read the comments on any news site. It's the 21st century version of the drunk guy at the corner of the bar. For every good thoughtful comment there are about 19 that only serve as bait. A few general interest sites are moving away from hosting comments on their articles.
 

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I read every comment. I was encouraged by the level head displayed by many non-hunters, however what struck me is how many people simply assume the meat is wasted and the only trophy taken from the harvest is the head; this despite the fact that the article clearly mentions meat being hauled out and consumed.

I've thought this for many years and witnessed first hand on several occasions that the clean organic meat we enjoy is a complete unknown to many until they try it - and often begin pursuing hunting themselves...
 

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... however what struck me is how many people simply assume the meat is wasted and the only trophy taken from the harvest is the head ...
This is a common thought with non-hunters. I think guys like Rinella and Hank Shaw, even Anthony Bourdain and Joe Rogan, have done a lot to educate people that, for vast majority of hunters, the meat is the point. My wife was adamantly opposed to hunting when we met. Now, she prefers venison over beef. She won't hunt, but definitely gets a little antsy when the freezer is getting low.

The other thing I get a lot from non-hunters when the topic comes up is "hunting isn't hard is it? I see "insert animal" all the time. So, you just walk up and shoot it?"
 

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Not surprised to see a positive article on hunting in the NYTimes. I live in NYC and almost everyone I meet, even the vegans--maybe even especially the vegans--think it's cool that I hunt. But, it's true they have no idea how hard it can be; they all think it's some version of duck hunt, point and click.

But I was pretty unhappy with the article, to be honest. I know hunting has always been a rich man's game--the sport of kings and princes--but a $200,000 price tag for sheep and $10,000 for an Alaska bear hunt means I'll never be able to enjoy either opportunity.
 
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Not surprised to see a positive article on hunting in the NYTimes. I live in NYC and almost everyone I meet, even the vegans--maybe even especially the vegans--think it's cool that I hunt. But, it's true they have no idea how hard it can be; they all think it's some version of duck hunt, point and click.

But I was pretty unhappy with the article, to be honest. I know hunting has always been a rich man's game--the sport of kings and princes--but a $200,000 price tag for sheep and $10,000 for an Alaska bear hunt means I'll never be able to enjoy either opportunity.

Just because you can't afford an auction tag doesn't mean you can never do it, a lot of opportunities are out there for a fraction of that cost.


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Just because you can't afford an auction tag doesn't mean you can never do it, a lot of opportunities are out there for a fraction of that cost.


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Exactly.

Any sheep population that has come from or benefitted from transplants was expensive. That money has to come from somewhere.


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I thought it was well written in a positive light considering the NYT wrote it. However factual it was it was incomplete on explaining all the ethics and meat consumption. There was one line about harvested meat sizzling on the grill. I know it was an article about sheep hunting and sheep conservation but I would have appreciated at least a paragraph on on general big game conservation. Unfortunately too many people take a short article as the complete story, form their opinion on all hunting without further research.
 

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The whole thing was set up by the same PR/marketing company that has been getting Jason on TV and in Men's Journal. They approached the NYT reporter last year as a means of promoting the brand in a mainstream publication, so no surprise that it doesn't tell the whole story.

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Congratulations to KUIU for getting some hunting exposure in a major newspaper. And the piece included a bit on Ray Alt, a +50 year sheep hunter who has taken DIY rams in five states (MT, WY, CO, NV and Alaska). Ray is not a wealthy guy, rather a dedicated die hard old sheep hunter. Well deserved to have him in the article along with the others noted.
 
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