Tin cloth vs Forloh btm

[Jmort1754]

Anyone have input ? Beating brush rabbits, bear, deer )

 

[h2so4]

https://www.rokslide.com/forloh-btm-pro-pant-review/

and https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/forloh-btm-pant-review-posted-now-traveling-pants-to-try.387733/

 

[wowzers]

I haven't heard of the other pants till I clicked the review above, but tin cloth is very different from what they are showing. I wear tin pants a lot in the winter and they would be miserable in anything other than really cold temps. They are also pretty heavy.

 

[Macintosh]

Tin cloth like the old filson waxed cotton stuff? No thanks. I used those for years, they are good in thorny brush but HEAVY, constrict your movement, requires real maintenence, not really that waterproof unless you really keep them waxed frequently, hot in warm weather, and ime wear out fast where it creases. I prefer a nylon material for brush pants.

 

[Beagle1]

I hunted rabbits in the tin cloth pants for many years. They will take a beating and keep you thorn free but as was mentioned they are very heavy and are not waterproof. If I was buying rabbit hunting pants now I would go the Forloh route.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I’ve been looking at the Forloh BTM pants, but are there any other close competitors I should be considering?

 

[The Ri Guy]

PNW lifer here, I probably own and rock more Tin Cloth than half of Rokslide combined, as well as have replaced all of my hunting pants with the Forloh BTM Pro.

There is virtually no application I can think of where I'd rather have Tin Cloth on over the Forloh BTM Pro with one exception, and that's dense blackberry choked clear cuts.

I love my Tin Cloth for logging, property work, general old timey masculine vibe fall and winter, but modern options simply out compete them in every category except for thorn resistance. Even then, the double layer panels, especially waxed, have done just as well for me as Tin Cloth. The non-reinforced stretch materials tho, will pick, pierce, and tear with thorns like any other stretchy athletic material.

Hope that helps not knowing more about your location or intended use.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

PNW lifer here, I probably own and rock more Tin Cloth than half of Rokslide combined, as well as have replaced all of my hunting pants with the Forloh BTM Pro.

There is virtually no application I can think of where I'd rather have Tin Cloth on over the Forloh BTM Pro with one exception, and that's dense blackberry choked clear cuts.

I love my Tin Cloth for logging, property work, general old timey masculine vibe fall and winter, but modern options simply out compete them in every category except for thorn resistance. Even then, the double layer panels, especially waxed, have done just as well for me as Tin Cloth. The non-reinforced stretch materials tho, will pick, pierce, and tear with thorns like any other stretchy athletic material.

Hope that helps not knowing more about your location or intended use.

Most of my hunting is in Virginia, but I have finally done some Montana hunting and plan to do more in the future. This past weekend, I was upland bird hunting in northern Montana and had a variety of thistles, light thorns, and cacti present. That’s brought the “want” for better pants to the forefront.

I wear my old cammies 90% of the time I am hunting. I wear my everyday 511’s whenever I’m on public land (the other 10%). Most of my hunting is in mature hardwood forests. Most of my hunting is still hunting. There is not a ton of bushwhacking required - until there is a tracking or stalking or driving job. I’d normally just walk around a thistle or blackberry patch. If I bought a pair of “hunting pants”, I’d want something I could wear while climbing the mountain, but also push through slightly overgrown paths in blackberry patches. I’d also want something that would shed water from dewy, knee-deep grass. It would be nice to not have to pick my path as carefully as I do currently. And, when tracking, I want to be more comfortable when following the tracks or blood trail.

For sitting hunts (and emergency use while still hunting), I carry a set of old, lightweight, military-issue gortex in my pack and put them on when I sit down on my spot. They wouldn’t last five minutes in blackberry bushes, but are good for shedding water and being wind proof.

I’ve considered chaps, but I shoot a lot from the seated position, so I would prefer to have my ass covered too. I normally have a butt pad, but it’s not perfect.

My old Filson tin cloth vest has been very reliable shedding briars, but it is heavy. My recent Filson purchases make me suspect that quality has gone down since I got this vest in the late 1990s. I’d love to hear that I am wrong about this, but the shirts I recently purchased were softer and less durable than the one I have had for thirty years.

I want a “buy once, cry once” solution. A light, durable, non-insulated jacket from the same material would also be nice. I have a heavy Carhart coat someone gave me, but it’s too heavy, bulky, and warm to use most of the time. And not warm enough to count on if I am stationary for a long time.

 

[The Ri Guy]

My recent Filson purchases make me suspect that quality has gone down since I got this vest in the late 1990s. I’d love to hear that I am wrong about this, but the shirts I recently purchased were softer and less durable than the one I have had for thirty years.

I want a “buy once, cry once” solution. A light jacket from the same material would also be nice.

Unfortunately, you are not wrong -- much of their catalog that is now made overseas is fashionista quality, not frontier quality.

The exceptions to this, in my recent experience the last couple years, are the Pro products (this program has been drastically reduced to just their actual workwear for the most part) and anything still labeled as USA manufactured. If it comes from overseas, unless it's the heavy t-shirts, I look elsewhere.

My wife's line of work qualifies her for the Pro program, which is how I buy most of my Filson (sizable discounts) and ensure quality. It's also simply a 45 minute drive from the house to HQ for me to do hands on research or returns when needed, which helps tremendously.

 

[tipsntails7]

Most of my hunting is in Virginia, but I have finally done some Montana hunting and plan to do more in the future. This past weekend, I was upland bird hunting in northern Montana and had a variety of thistles, light thorns, and cacti present. That’s brought the “want” for better pants to the forefront.

I wear my old cammies 90% of the time I am hunting. I wear my everyday 511’s whenever I’m on public land (the other 10%). Most of my hunting is in mature hardwood forests. Most of my hunting is still hunting. There is not a ton of bushwhacking required - until there is a tracking or stalking or driving job. I’d normally just walk around a thistle or blackberry patch. If I bought a pair of “hunting pants”, I’d want something I could wear while climbing the mountain, but also push through slightly overgrown paths in blackberry patches. I’d also want something that would shed water from dewy, knee-deep grass. It would be nice to not have to pick my path as carefully as I do currently. And, when tracking, I want to be more comfortable when following the tracks or blood trail.

For sitting hunts (and emergency use while still hunting), I carry a set of old, lightweight, military-issue gortex in my pack and put them on when I sit down on my spot. They wouldn’t last five minutes in blackberry bushes, but are good for shedding water and being wind proof.

I’ve considered chaps, but I shoot a lot from the seated position, so I would prefer to have my ass covered too. I normally have a butt pad, but it’s not perfect.

My old Filson tin cloth vest has been very reliable shedding briars, but it is heavy. My recent Filson purchases make me suspect that quality has gone down since I got this vest in the late 1990s. I’d love to hear that I am wrong about this, but the shirts I recently purchased were softer and less durable than the one I have had for thirty years.

I want a “buy once, cry once” solution. A light, durable, non-insulated jacket from the same material would also be nice. I have a heavy Carhart coat someone gave me, but it’s too heavy, bulky, and warm to use most of the time. And not warm enough to count on if I am stationary for a long time.

99% of their stuff is metro lumberjack fashion now unfortunately.

Only real exception is their tin cloth and Mackinaw will products. They have managed to not **** those up totally, except I don't believe they even sell a waxed tin cloth jacket anymore, you need to send it in or take it in to have it waxed first if you don't want to do it.

 

[The Ri Guy]

99% of their stuff is metro lumberjack fashion now unfortunately.

Only real exception is their tin cloth and Mackinaw will products. They have managed to not **** those up totally, except I don't believe they even sell a waxed tin cloth jacket anymore, you need to send it in or take it in to have it waxed first if you don't want to do it.

They do — anything labeled Tin Cloth and not prefaced with “Dry” comes with a light factory wax application.

However, it’s super light and again for fashionistas running from Starbucks back to their Tesla in Seattle. If you want it to be water resistant for actual outdoor use you need to buy a tin of wax and apply a heavy coating on top of that.