Tikka .308 painless method recommendations

[Wolfshead]

You are getting frustrated because the answer you are being given repeatedly is not the one you WANT to hear. We are all telling you that messing with powder charge and seating depth is a waste of time and will not produce the >50% improvement in precision you are looking for. The best thing to do is to change components - bullet, primer, powder, and test each one of those at 1-2gr below book max for that combination with at least a 10 shot group.

Not actually.
As I stated “I probably could have made this much easier if I had just said in the beginning, “at what grain would you start loading this powder for this bullet to start the painless method.””.
What was frustrating me was there were posts that were not even taking into consideration the components that I was talking about.
Instead of giving recommendations for them.
For example;
“I shoot the same gun. It loves 165 to 168 grain bullets. I'm using hornady 168 gr eld match bullets as my practice bullet. I use 43.8 grains of imr4895.”
“I settled on 138gr Hammer HHT and Benchmark power @2975 fps.” Etc….
I will take full responsibility for how I asked the question and how I communicated through out this thread.
Form called me out for not reading the Painless thread. Again my fault for not wording my post well enough, but as you read through this, many others, it would appear had not read through this thread, and that was what was frustrating me.
Please everyone, I’m NOT calling anyone out! I’m not trying to start a fight/argument here!
But, I was not looking for what I wanted to hear, and that is an unfair response to this, in my opinion.
I have a great load with Varget and Accubonds. NY is contemplating going non-lead on public lands which I hunt often so I’m trying to come up with an accurate load for them
I have 130gr. Barnes ttsx which I tried to find a good load for and was unable to get less than a 2.5” group from, so in line with the painless method, “Had this load shot over that I would have changed powder by 1 grain then reshot it. If it didn’t meet what I needed then I would ha e changed powder completely.” I have changed powder and I was looking for advise there, with that powder.
“The best thing to do is change components” which is what I did, is it not?
Thank you for offering your help. I really do appreciate it.

 

[solarshooter]

Data? Are you retarded? Seriously. I knkw what my guns shoots. And if your so insecure that you need data, then you really need to get a life. I shoot for ME, and ME alone. I hunt, I don't shoot for competition. I check my rifles through the year whe. I go on big hunts as well as my own property. So yes, I shot these groups every time for #1 practice. More you shoot, better you become of your rifle. And #2 to insure the rifle repeats. And it does. So gives a crap if YOU need reassurance. Better yet, not to screw this guys thread up, don't belive me. I'll just keep stacking up meat.

I am not saying your gun is not accurate. All those groups you posted would make me happy any day of the week.

What I am saying is that if you repeat that ladder with 3 shot groups, you will in all likelihood observe completely different "nodes" or small/large group patterns, simply due to small sample dispersion.

 

[Ringbill27]

I believe I’ve got this bullet scooting at 3150fps (Ill check my notes tonight) and getting around 1” groups. Liked it so I thought I try it in my 30-06 and after quite of bit of testing I found good groups but my speeds were right at 3000fps. Tried 3-4 different powders. There’s no point in loading a point in a 30-06 that my 308 can throw faster. Switched to the 168gr TTSX and it was like the easy button good speeds and accuracy on first test.

If you haven’t cleaned your barrel I’d give it a try. You aren’t really losing anything trying. Give BL-C2 a try.