Three position saftey actions

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I'm digging through the process of putting together a couple of hunting rifles.

I believe I want a 3 position safety. I have been reading and looking at the defiance rebel.

Who else is out there making a three position safety action?

Forgot to add I'm a lefty and I want to go DMB.

Will be building a 22cm and a 708.
 
Pretty sure you can get a defiance with one.

Gentry customs makes a rem700 3 position shroud, that requires fitment by competent gunsmith.
 
Winchester model 70
Ruger m77
Kimber 84/8400
Montana 2022
HS precision

Discontinued
Montana 1999
LAW m704

Aftermarket add-on to 700's

I believe for non bolt mounted safeties but still 3 position there is howa & sako
 
That Defiance Rebel action is intriguing. But for almost $2K for the action, unless money is no option, better options exist for a build.

First, I'd ask why you want a three-position action?

The reason I like three-position actions (Model 70, Kimber 84m, ect.) is because they lock the bolt closed on "safe." Two-position actions that lock the bolt (Tikka, Sako, Howa, etc.) are fine by me as well. While it's not a huge deal if an action can open on "safe," it will always annoy me.
 
That Defiance Rebel action is intriguing. But for almost $2K for the action, unless money is no option, better options exist for a build.

First, I'd ask why you want a three-position action?

The reason I like three-position actions (Model 70, Kimber 84m, ect.) is because they lock the bolt closed on "safe." Two-position actions that lock the bolt (Tikka, Sako, Howa, etc.) are fine by me as well. While it's not a huge deal if an action can open on "safe," it will always annoy me.
I want the bolt locked. I'm a lefty so my options are limited on factory stuff.
 
I want the bolt locked. I'm a lefty so my options are limited on factory stuff.
I looked into it a fair bit before building my own model 70. The defiance is probably the easy button just for handedness & stock availability despite the cost.

if you really want controlled round feed claw extractor + 3 position safety there's only a handful of options that I'm aware of, it'll be more of a hassle for the custom and you gotta want it.

Options I'm aware of from when I was looking to custom build CRF: Defiance, Winchester Model 70, Ruger M77, Kimber 84M/84L/8400, Montana 1999, Montana 2022




I don't believe any CRF guns accept pre-fits as all require an extractor cut (with the potential exception of the new montana 2022 but they haven't made any lefties yet?) Seems to put firmly out of the DIY barrel swap to me...


All but defiance would require buying a donor gun. Probably looking for $600-1200 for a donor rifle in one of those which is a fair bit of savings over the $3,000 for defiance.

When I was looking Ruger is by far the most available in left handed models followed by Winchester, then Montana 1999, and Kimber is most likely in last. New montana 2022 no lefties so far.
Weight-wise Dunno about defiance but winchester and ruger are heavy-ish and I think you'd need to try hard to get under 8lb all-in usually looking at 7-7.5# without a scope/rings. Kimbers are pretty light. Montana are about the same as winchester.

Defiance is the only one with a Rem700 footprint so you will have much better selection of stocks, rings, magazines, etc.

Winchester is probably the next easiest to find a stock for, mcmillan inlets a couple models as does stocky's and hs precision. Montana 1999 I've heard is a winchester clone, I don't know if that extends to inletting and bottom metal.

there's a handful of stocks available for rugers but no particularly light ones. HS precision was about the only composite option I saw when I was looking.

Kimbers are a round bodied action but not a 700 clone. Almost no one inlets for them that I've found except for a couple small makers: pendleton composites, MPI rifle stocks, bansner?
Most kimbers came with a blind magazine for a long time so most used rifles don't come with bottom metal, kimber doesn't sell them, and I never found any aftermarket options when I was looking. Would be a bit of a unicorn to find a LH model with a floorplate. Kimber would sell you a stock once upon a time but you gotta send em your rifle for them to install it.


I just had a custom done on a Winchester model 70. Ended up going with that because the action fit and finish was much nicer than my Ruger and stock options were a bit nicer. I wasn't willing to spend the $$ for a defiance just yet, maybe someday.
 
So, I’m a lefty and grew up using an old savage flat back that had a three position safety in the tang. I now have all different types of rifles, but the best safety setup that I have found is the browning X-bolt. There is just something super ergonomic about the tang safety and then the button on the bolt to unlock it is just genius. One thing I don’t know is if the X-bolt safety is also a firing pin block like the Winchester and Ruger. I’ve just never warmed up to the Winchester/ruger/kimber style from an ergonomics and speed standpoint. I now have a Blaser and am getting used to using it. I don’t think I’m as quick with it as I am the browning/savage but it’s not far behind and very safe.
 
So, I’m a lefty and grew up using an old savage flat back that had a three position safety in the tang. I now have all different types of rifles, but the best safety setup that I have found is the browning X-bolt. There is just something super ergonomic about the tang safety and then the button on the bolt to unlock it is just genius. One thing I don’t know is if the X-bolt safety is also a firing pin block like the Winchester and Ruger.

Completely agree with you on the ergonomics of the Browning tang safety and bolt unlock. My favorite action. I grew up shooting right-handed rifles left handed due to left eye dominance so the tang safety was natural.

Xbolt safety does function as a firing pin block- source below:

“The convenient tang safety blocks the trigger sear and features a firing pin block for added security.“

 
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