Thoughts on new Seekins barrel tech?

[nm.otter]

Potentially, yes -- hence the common practice of only adding a small amount of gain.

 

[stan_wa]

In this context, heat and pressure are locked together. Increase in pressure = increase in temps. As volume expands, pressure goes down and so does temperature. Gas temps inside the casing at ignition are about 5000F for a microsecond - and as soon as the bullet moves forward, temps start dropping rapidly. It's about 4000F an inch or so past the chamber, and about 1500-2000F by the time the bullet exits the muzzle, depending on cartridge and barrel length.

If those numbers are true, and there is a pressure spike associated with the bullet hitting the lands it seems reasonable that the gain twist will help with barrel life

The video made it sound like the material was the real special sause for barrel life.

There is a good bit of conversation about seekins not being the only one doing these things , but it might be unique in that they are doing , material, sin Wave shaped riffling , and gain twist.

I’m excited to see how they shoot i have two seekins and I’m a big fan

 

[Mumbly-Peg]

I’ve been noticing a drop in Seekins stock levels, and Bud’s seems to have cleared the shelves. EuroOptic is also shipping their rifles with Poly mags instead of CF mags.

My tinfoil hat is telling me that retailers are going to start seeing shipments of new rifles with the new barrel tech by summer, and we’ll be able to try initial quality at least.

 

[BMRN12]

My question is if you reload and the bullet supposedly doesnt engage the rifling at the start how do you find jam or find a base to ogive?

 

[Cold_Canadian]

 

[Sundodger]

This X-ring guy doesn't sound unbiased...

With that said I might be a dreamer, but I really hope new barrel manufacturing approach's and high pressure ammo lives up to the hype and more.

 

[pattimusprime22]

I'm usually pretty skeptical and chalk most claims up to marketing, but I'm fairly impressed by a gun still shooting sub 1moa 10 shot groups after 5000 rounds of 7mm backcountry. I wanna see what other reviewers see in their own testing.

 

[jesco88]

Is there any published data that can substantiate some of these claims about barrel life? (with regards to normal cartridges in that 60-65k psi range.)

 

[Sundodger]

Is there any published data that can substantiate some of these claims about barrel life? (with regards to normal cartridges in that 60-65k psi range.)

I doubt it unless it’s publicly funded and not part of a secret squirrel program.

Worth searching through some literature.

I want to believe…

 

[nm.otter]

The physics are solid.

Implementation has been the challenge -- but ECM turns that (mostly) into a software tweak, while simultaneously broadening the range of alloy options. Then add nitriding.

 

[RockAndSage]

The physics are solid.

Implementation has been the challenge -- but ECM turns that (mostly) into a software tweak, while simultaneously broadening the range alloy options. Then add nitriding.

^This. ECM itself is awesome for the precision it can offer, but it's the alloys it opens up for barrels, that just can't realistically be rifled in traditional ways, that is thrilling. We're going to be seeing some really cool stuff in the near future.

 

[Sundodger]

Proof has tikka prefits for sale on their website with their new gain twist.

Who’s going first?

PXT Pre-Fit Barrels - Proof Research

proofresearch.com

 

[pattimusprime22]

Proof has tikka prefits for sale on their website with their new gain twist.

Who’s going first?

PXT Pre-Fit Barrels - Proof Research

proofresearch.com

I was looking earlier. They don't do prefits for 6cm? wth

 

[stan_wa]

I got a new 7 prc from seekins element and so far it doesn’t shoot amazing. I tried 175 elite hunters , 180 eldm and 195 eol, with asg and retumbo

180 eldm was the best but not amazing gonna try n570 and h1000 and retumbo at max charge next

 

[Flyjunky]

Pretty good discussion here

 

[RME]

I was looking earlier. They don't do prefits for 6cm? wth

From what it sounded like to me, the twist rate is optimized for each cartridge so as they progress more will become available

 

[bruceleroy]

Reading all the forums on this topic is hilarious. It seems as though Proof doesnt know how to build a barrel all of a sudden and all the internet bros are far smarter and know more about barrel building than the pros.

 

[RME]

Reading all the forums on this topic is hilarious. It seems as though Proof doesnt know how to build a barrel all of a sudden and all the internet bros are far smarter and know more about barrel building than the pros.

I’m only on a couple forums. What are people complaining about?

 

[Flyjunky]

Reading all the forums on this topic is hilarious. It seems as though Proof doesnt know how to build a barrel all of a sudden and all the internet bros are far smarter and know more about barrel building than the pros

Par for the course with every topic ever

 

[WCB]

I’m only on a couple forums. What are people complaining about?

Most comments I see on this is "gain twist rifling has been around since the 1800s" "This is nothing new" blah blah blah. Same you saw with the 7BC release and "its not reloadable" "It will burn barrels out" "It wont perform as they say". Guys that have no idea what they are talking about or know just enough to make bad comparisons.

Does it make previous cartridges, barrels, or technology not work or work less? absolutely not. But I guess their is always a crowd for the "30-06 vs .270" articles.