This is the WHY........

[Taco John]

8 times?

Used your rifle for a trekking pole instead of all the free sticks, and branches laying about?

Sounds illogical.

 

[BBob]

Hunting coues deer country (more mountainous unit) a week ago I do think that's some very fall-prone terrain. Just so much loose rocks to slip out from under you.

That’s been my main hunting world for 45 years I fall but not very often, same for my pals. Most all of us are multi discipline fun hogs. Climbers, skiers, snowboarders, cyclists, mountain bikers, etc… Well practiced in many forms of getting around

Nobody has to move over rough ground, it is not required to be hard core, but when people who can't do something and therefore don't understand it, start looking down and giving pathetically ignorant advice about fitness and trekking poles to those who have the skill, it is amusing.

I have put myself in some dumb ass situations over the years but somehow pulled it off without damage. I try to learn from those near misses and don’t do it again. It’s been awhile so mby I’ve finally learned a thing or two about saving my hide

 

[IDVortex]

Hunters, just like the 2a community are some of the worse when it comes to our own culture.

I feel like folks saying you shouldn't fallen so much should go back ij the same area, cover the same amount of ground and go for the 15 days and see when they start making little mistakes, or realize not all terrain is the same.

Nice buck. Did a hunt most folks dont even dream about, let alone can even do.

 

[mt terry d]

You might have trouble selling a used gun for awhile though…

You saw how it shoots, right?
DIBS!!!!!

 

[Pistolpete28]

Thanks for sharing your experience and results

 

[Pistolpete28]

What your torque specs on ring and base screws?

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

I’ll have to what @mtnwrunner shared on the WHY I switched to using shit that just works day in and day out.

This gay little Tikka 6 creed with a “meh” glass Maven RS1.2 mounted in UM Tikka rings just went through the hell.

I don’t fall too often, or throw my gear on the ground on purpose, but shit happens when you actually go hunt and shoot enough. It’s inevitable. I was the most vocal anti drop test person on this website before realizing what it’s actually all about.

What the gun and scope did do is kill 12 animals in 4 states including elk, whitetail, mule deer, antelope, and coues deer all in the last 30ish days. The gun was 40 miles from the Canadian border and on the Mexico border, it bounced around in the backseat of my Gladiator with other gear for over 4,000 miles. Hundreds of miles packed around the back country strapped to a pack or being hand carried.

What it didn’t do was miss shots from 183 yards to 623 yards, lose its zero, fail to feed a round, fail to fire in blowing snow in zero degrees, fail to feed/fire covered in dust and thorns, etc. the list goes on.

A 3 round full mag zero check from a shooter who had never even shot the gun before…




Taking all the headaches out of the equation and knowing your gun is going to kill what you pull the tigger on makes a guy way more confident in the mountains.

 

[mt terry d]

Maven RS1.2 UM rings Tikka t3X
Couple days ago caught my pants crossing a fence. Tried to move my foot to keep balance and it
was against a rock which didnt move.
Fell downhill right onto the rifle & scope. (Gun in Gun Bearer)
Was concerned and checked it at 570 yards.
Still on the money.

 

[TradLife406]

I had a similar hunt and experience.
My Kifaru gun bearer came inclipped multiple times. Rifle flipped down and the suppressor hit rock/hard ground. This happened a a lot. Finally figured a way to prevent it.

Same rifle setup as you just in 6 UM.

Shot my bull at 905. Only reason I took that shot was there was absolutely zero wind. And the animal was basically frozen in place. I'd pass the opportunity if any of that had been different. I had time to get prone. In all fairness I did give him a warning shot. So it wasn't a first round hit. Second shot was fkn text book behind the shoulder though.


I just picked up two more Maven scopes. All my main guns have mavens now.

I never had an issue with Leupold. But I never abused my loopy like I did Bo Jangles. I was basically wiping him up and down the mountain calling him Toby.

Arkens seem to do ok. But the zero stop screws like to back out.

 

[griff383]

Wow, thanks for sharing. And yes, you absolutely get what you pay for.

 

[Trail&ErrorAK]

Nice, good to have confidence in your system.
AFter a couple issues I had a gun built up that I'm 100% confident in. I am not gentle with it at all and have on more then one occasion stopped and asked why I wasn't more careful.

So far have not had any issues unless changing cartridges or when I added the can.

 

[RockAndSage]

shit happens when you actually go hunt and shoot enough. It’s inevitable.

It's amazing how people questioning this tend to have very pretty, very new looking guns.

 

[Schmo]

It's amazing how people questioning this tend to have very pretty, very new looking guns.

Yeah. Anytime time you mention slipping and falling, multiple dudes chime in about how you must be clumsy, or you must not be athletic blah blah blah. Okay, so they’re not hunting in steep and loose terrain.

 

[IDVortex]

Yeah. Anytime time you mention slipping and falling, multiple dudes chime in about how you must be clumsy, or you must not be athletic blah blah blah. Okay, so they’re not hunting in steep and loose terrain.

Ive climbed Everest with a 200 pound pack and never slipped once. This, of you are clumsy hunting. You shouldn't be out.

Some fat dude who only goes hunting in a tree stand overlooking a corn feeder and the farthest he walks is 30 feet from the truck.

 

[RockAndSage]

Ive climbed Everest with a 200 pound pack and never slipped once. This, of you are clumsy hunting. You shouldn't be out.

Some fat dude who only goes hunting in a tree stand overlooking a corn feeder and the farthest he walks is 30 feet from the truck.

Or, you could actually just use the hell out of your weapons without ever dropping them once.

Rifles moving in and out of vehicles, movement against packs and other gear, brush, shooting off of anything other than a bipod...over time, if you're using your guns enough, it'll show.

 

[Schmo]

Rifles moving in and out of vehicles, movement against packs and other gear, brush, shooting off of anything other than a bipod...over time, if you're using your guns enough, it'll show.

Hey, road hunting is hard on guns since they have to be quickly accessible and all!

 

[jethrob]

Friend of my fathers was thrown from his horse, rifle was trampled by the frightened beast and friend was bruised up. He checked the zero back at camp and was still dead on. I wish I could remember his setup so I could duplicate it but it was quality no doubt.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

What your torque specs on ring and base screws?

Thread 'Do You Need Specs/Info On Setting Up Your Tikka/Maven RS1.2/UM Tikka Rings Combo? Look Here.'

Dec 15, 2024

I've gotten several PMs and texts over the last couple months as folks seasons are winding down and new rifles are on the horizon for off season training and then hunting next year.

I have put together 7 personal Tikka/Maven RS1.2/UM Tikka rings combos and have helped put together several others. Here are the torque specs I've landed on for continued success on the guns and scopes not losing their zero. Think practical field use and very nasty roads/off road trails minimum 3-5 days per week, combined with shooting hundreds of rounds per week.


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[Big_wals]

Wow, thanks for sharing. And yes, you absolutely get what you pay for.

The frustrating thing is, you don’t necessarily get what you pay for. When it comes to holding zero through hell or high water, $400 SWFA scopes consistently outperform other brands that are 3x-5x the price, sometimes more.

 

[MuleyFever]

Had mine this year. Had a Gun Bearer attached to my K4 but didn't get it quite right and it came loose.

Thread 'Will my Credo hold zero?'

Nov 22, 2025

I know how much you all love real world data. I dropped my rifle today packing out an elk over rocky terrain. The suppressor hit first and then the rifle went down from waist height. The top of the objective area and both turrets lost paint. There is also a scratch on the ocular end. Ill try and get to the range in the next few days to test it.

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