Thin but higher R value sleeping pad?

[TimberHunter]

I sleep well on Klymit static V design. I have an insulated model from circa 2018. Come to find out it has an actual R value of less than 2.

I’ve tried various different 2.5-3” thick air pads include therma rest. Felt like I was on a small version of those cheap blow up mattress despite changing the internal air pressure. Lower back and neck don’t agree with that style

Klymit has been known to greatly inflate their r values in the past so I’m trying to stay away. Any other thin pad, decent r value suggestions?


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[WeiserBucks]

My XTHERM seems slim but I don't know the dimensions off hand.

 

[TimberHunter]

My XTHERM seems slim but I don't know the dimensions off hand.

I just got done spending 3 nights on the new xtherm. Warm pad but wasn’t great on the lower back. I tried different pressures each night. I usually am not picking when it comes to beds but air mattress seem to get me if it’s essentially one large air chamber


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[DenimChicken]

Exped makes some pads that aren't single chamber. I had one a few years ago and moved to a Thermarest after the Xped sprung a leak.

 

[BuckSkinKiller]

I had an Xtherm and sure it for a couple outings and was warm but not comfortable for me. I switched to the Big Agnes Rapide Sl and is a little thicker but I sleep a lot better on it. I’m a side sleeper so need to sacrifice a little bit of weight for a thicker pad. Definitely would recommend.

 

[Matt5266]

Heard good things about the Nemo Eclipse. But I love my thermarest xtherm

 

[Trumpkin The Dwarf]

I’ve found I sleep much better if I take a 2-3” thick egg carton style foam hospital mattress, cut it to shape, and put it under my thermarest. It seems to smooth out the irregularities of the blowup xtherm.

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[Matt5266]

Your packing that in with you?

 

[Trumpkin The Dwarf]

Your packing that in with you?

I cut it to the shape of my pad, and yes. I take the weight penalty. Even going 6 miles back, I will leave other comforts (like a glassing chair) chair behind for the sake of better sleep.

 

[Matt5266]

I cut it to the shape of my pad, and yes. I take the weight penalty. Even going 6 miles back, I will leave other comforts (like a glassing chair) chair behind for the sake of better sleep.

I get it probably doesn't weigh much really but does it pack down small? I imagine that thing being huge even cut and tied up tight

 

[Trumpkin The Dwarf]

I get it probably doesn't weigh much really but does it pack down small? I imagine that thing being huge even cut and tied up tight

If you use a few loops of para cord it can cinch down about near the size of a full thermarest z pad. I’ve also cut it down to three quarter length before and padded the foot area of my bedding with spare clothing or a backpack, etc. that cuts the size as well.

 

[Braaap]

I have used an xtherm for years but switched to a Nemo tensor extreme two years ago and find it much more comfortable and quiet. It’s very warm too.

 

[ChrisAU]

I cut it to the shape of my pad, and yes. I take the weight penalty. Even going 6 miles back, I will leave other comforts (like a glassing chair) chair behind for the sake of better sleep.

Got a rough weight on one you've trimmed for the full length of a pad?

 

[Trumpkin The Dwarf]

Got a rough weight on one you've trimmed for the full length of a pad?

I actually need to buy a new one. Mine is pretty broken down from years of use, but I’ll weigh it when I get a chance

 

[180ls1]

Why is thin a priority?

 

[TimberHunter]

Why is thin a priority?

I sleep better in thinner pads. The thick (3” or so) pads don’t allow me to sleep very well even after trying different air pressures


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[Dos Perros]

Are you cold with current pad?

 

[TimberHunter]

Are you cold with current pad?

Yes, actual r value is below 2


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[Braaap]

I sleep better in thinner pads. The thick (3” or so) pads don’t allow me to sleep very well even after trying different air pressures


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Are you rolling off? Have you thought about adding a thermarest zlite under your current pad? Might add enough insulation from the ground to make your current pad more comfortable.

 

[Trumpkin The Dwarf]

@ChrisAU this is my backpacking version. It’s actually cut more like a half pad. Enough to get butt to head on top of it. Legs are not supported by the foam. It’s 1lb on my scale.