Thermal Scopes.

[1000yards]

That’s what I do where I hunt there are no people and the only other animals are cows. If I was in the small fields east I could maybe see that as an issue. But it’s easy to keep your finger off the trigger.

For anybody else who's reading this and doesn't know any better: this guy is trolling or joking. Do not do this. Do not break the most basic and easy to follow rule of gun safety just because you've made the subjective judgment that there shouldn't be any people out there.

 

[Amos Keeto]

That’s what I do where I hunt there are no people and the only other animals are cows. If I was in the small fields east I could maybe see that as an issue. But it’s easy to keep your finger off the trigger.

My EDC is a S&W M&P .40 S&W. It was designed, manufactured and I purposely purchased it because it has NO SAFETY. I learned early in life to keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot.
Seventy six years and I ain't shot nobody .....yet!

 

[KurtR]

For anybody else who's reading this and doesn't know any better: this guy is trolling or joking. Do not do this. Do not break the most basic and easy to follow rule of gun safety just because you've made the subjective judgment that there shouldn't be any people out there.

No I’m not making a subjective judgement there are no people. I am on 8500 acres of private land that no one else has permission on in the middle of west river South Dakota. On top of that there is only access where we go in at and they would have to drive past the house at the ranch and at night it’s hard to sneak I. With head lights . Now if I was on 300 acres little fields like east river i wouldn’t scan with the gun.

 

[peterk123]

Yeah....this has probably been covered more than a million times ....BUT....
I'm just now trying to get into the "thermal" thing.
#1) I'm a "po boy"! I don't have the coins to drop $1500 plus just for kicks and giggles!
#2) I live in rural Oklahoma! Pigs snd 'yotes abound! There is a small creek across our property, but all wildlife traffic is after dark!

I'm not afraid or scared of those critters, but it sure would be nice to thin the numbers! Might even help to increase the deer/turkey numbers!

Found an ATN ThOR 4, used for +/- $600. Soorry, but I'm a bit skeptical about dropping $600 on a "used" scope! ....especially a thermal scope!

I "think" , for that much money ($1k+), I'd want something with a factory warranty! Just my OFS* kicking in.

I also was raised with the mindset of "good and cheap" don't belong in the same sentence!

I see some AGM (?) products that run close to the thousand dollar range.
Is AGM worth the money?


*OFS - Old Fart Syndrome

Talk to @ZeroFoxGiven . He will take the guess out of it for you.

 

[1000yards]

No I’m not making a subjective judgement there are no people. I am on 8500 acres of private land that no one else has permission on in the middle of west river South Dakota. On top of that there is only access where we go in at and they would have to drive past the house at the ranch and at night it’s hard to sneak I. With head lights . Now if I was on 300 acres little fields like east river i wouldn’t scan with the gun.

My friend I mean this in the kindest way possible: you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what constitutes a subjective judgment versus an objective fact.

Let's try a thought experiment. You come home and pull a gun out of your closet. You have two options:

1. Check and verify that it's unloaded before you mess with it.

Or

2. Get on the rokslide forum to argue with me that it's impossible for it to be loaded, then start treating it like it's unloaded without checking.

What's your choice? I am desperately hopeful you're able to understand the analogy.

 

[KurtR]

My friend I mean this in the kindest way possible: you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what constitutes a subjective judgment versus an objective fact.

Let's try a thought experiment. You come home and pull a gun out of your closet. You have two options:

1. Check and verify that it's unloaded before you mess with it.

Or

2. Get on the rokslide forum to argue with me that it's impossible for it to be loaded, then start treating it like it's unloaded without checking.

What's your choice? I am desperately hopeful you're able to understand the analogy.

It’s a stupid analogy. Always considered it loaded. Comparing to being in my house to being on a huge ranch at night where I’m the only one out there. That and the gun doesn’t go off unless I’m pulling the trigger. Different situations can mean different methods . If I see something out there at night of the two legged variety they would have to be severely lost it’s 5 miles from the nearest road.

I suppose if you cc you don’t have one in the tube.

 

[YellowIH]

I have an AGM Rattler v2 19-256 from last fall and a Pulsar Trail XP50 from whenever it was released in 2018. The AGM is excellent for $700ish. I have used it on pigs out to 125 no issues. 100 and in is better though.