The Rokslide Stock Traders Thread

[NDGuy]

Grabbed some TTD and SNOW today.

Snow chart looks to be curling to me and TTD was beaten up heavily off earnings and is back to last fall price.

 

[Danny Hoey]

I’m thinking it’s time to buy more ISRG. It’s been a steady gainer for me and think it’s took its lumps

 

[Poser]

Grabbed some TTD and SNOW today.

Snow chart looks to be curling to me and TTD was beaten up heavily off earnings and is back to last fall price.

I’ve had some TTD since 2019 or so and? Yeah, it’s getting beat up right now.

 

[BBob]

For clarity, Trump didn’t award anything, he just announced the Pentagon’s decision to award the contract to Boeing.

 

[Poser]

More negative data points you might consider about Tesla stock:

-multiple insurance agencies, including Geico, will not cover Cyber trucks. Less options causes higher premiums which further reduces buyer interest and resale value. However, There are rumours that Tesla will start offering their own insurance for these vehicles.
-Musk projected 250,000-500,000 annual cyber truck sales at full production, but less than 50,000 units were delivered in 2024 (and all of these have been recalled due to panels following off).
-Q4 sales dropped 22% from Q3
Looking at Germany, the largest market for EVs in the E.U., the country saw a 30% year-over-year rise in electric vehicle sales in February, but Tesla sales were down more than 70% compared to last year—less than 1,500 new Teslas were registered in the country in February.

Between January and February of 2025, Tesla recorded a 50% drop in sales in Portugal and 45% in France according to Reuters, while sales fell 42% in Sweden and 48% in Norway.

Tesla shipments from China dropped 49% in February, as the automaker shipped out 30,688 vehicles—the lowest monthly figure since July 2022, according to Bloomberg

In California—the biggest domestic market for EVs thanks to its state mandate that 35% of new 2026 car models sold by automakers must be zero emissions—Tesla sales slumped for the fifth consecutive quarter, according to the latest data

 

[Beendare]

Yeah, thats^ good info. BTW, CA is dropping their ridiculous emissions mandate.

Fundamentally, TSLA looks to weaken much further to me.
Like it or not, TSLA has hitched its wagon to the current political developments... Its a HUGE factor, how do you ignore that when evaluating the stock?

Market; my take is a slow grind down going into the Tariff deadline in April and probably past. I took some small profits in a couple things...and holding others along with some cash as I think we will see some smoking buys. The penny stocks many of you play in will probably get hit the hardest.

 

[Poser]

Like it or not, TSLA has hitched its wagon to the current political developments... Its a HUGE factor, how do you ignore that when evaluating the stock?

I don't believe that anyone can accurately evaluate based on the Musk/POTUS marriage. For every positive outcome of Musk being hitched to POTUS, there is the potential for that relationship to suddenly implode. If Musk gets kicked off Air Force One, who's going to be left to support him? It is possible that Tesla makes a consumer friendly comeback without Musk as CEO, but it seems clear that regardless, the company will be tied to political activism from one side or the other for the foreseeable future.

 

[MountainTracker]

Tesla is moving today, probably from the Optimus Bot announcements yesterday.

Just based on macro it will probably be pushed back down.


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[Poser]

Tesla has instructed their employees not to dump their stocks.
Enron and Lehman Bros. did the same.

 

[MountainTracker]

Tesla has instructed their employees not to dump their stocks.
Enron and Lehman Bros. did the same.

Well someone is buying


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[DAOutfitters208]

Tesla has instructed their employees not to dump their stocks.
Enron and Lehman Bros. did the same.

No one could figure out how Enron was making money though and it turned out to be a massive fraud, we can see the products Tesla is producing.

 

[BBob]

Tesla has instructed their employees not to dump their stocks.

Where’s did this happen? Are you conflating that statement with the during an investors presentation/meeting “Tesla CEO Elon Musk urged employees to keep the faith and “hang on to your stock”?

Instructed by the company to not sell and urged by the ceo to keep the faith and not sell are two different things.

 

[Poser]

No one could figure out how Enron was making money though and it turned out to be a massive fraud, we can see the products Tesla is producing.

My suggestion is more along the lines of "we've seen these orders come down from companies who know they are in trouble"

That being said, according to Tesla's cash flow statements, the firm spent $6.3 billion on "purchases of property and equipment excluding finance leases, net of sales" in the second half of 2024. However, its balance sheet claims the gross value of property, plant, and equipment rose by only $4.9 billion — leaving a $1.4 billion discrepancy. Now, that could mean all kinds of things, but I don't know how meany of those "things" could be good outcomes for the valuation.

 

[Poser]

Where’s did this happen? Are you conflating that with during an investors presentation/meeting that “Tesla CEO Elon Musk urged employees to keep the faith and “hang on to your stock”? Instructed by the company to not sell and urged by the ceo to keep the faith are two different things.

I'm not sure if an employer could actually prevent you from not selling your stock. However, if your CEO said, "Bob, hang on to my hat", you'd likely consider that as instruction from your boss as opposed to, "Bob, will you hang on to my hat?" which would be a request or "Bob, I imploring you to hang onto my hat" which would be begging. Because, you know.... grammar.
Now, I'll be the first to admit that Musk isn't the most articulate man who has ever lived. Maybe its the ketamine talking? Be it instruction, request, or begging at a late night, 'all hands on deck" meeting, it all suggests desperation. Ever worked in a sinking company? That's the kind of shit CEOs say.

 

[Beendare]

TSLA's PE today is 122.

The questions I ask myself;
Is Tesla going to massively grow earnings to justify that valuation?

Is Tesla worth that much more than Ford that has a single digit PE...or even more than that, is Tesla worth more than all of the other car companies in the US combined?

1) Tesla benefitted from the $7,500 tax credit to buy them- thats going away.
2) Teslas benefitted from the Virtue signal buying- thats almost gone now.
3) [strikes and you are out] Competition from others is cutting into Tesla sales.

Do they have some world changing proprietary tech that no one else has?

I just don't see anything to justify that 122 PE
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Stock was up 5% today. Remember, this is one of the stocks that is most shorted....and thus manipulated by traders.
I would bet a paycheck, that 5% today was shorts either covering or involving a position....which doesn't bode well for the sentiment long term.

 

[MountainTracker]

Do they have some world changing proprietary tech that no one else has?

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Yes. I think it is a mistake to compare Tesla to ford, gm, or every other car manufacturer. If that’s all they did then I can see that.

The Bots alone have a projected valuation of $10 trillion by 2040.

Goldman Sachs estimates FSD is already worth $1-3 billion with a valuation of $75B by 2030

Fords current market cap is $39B
Chevy is $49B
Toyota is 299B

Just things to think about.


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[eddielasvegas]

It would be a cold day in h$ll before I would bet my money against Elon Musk…

Exactly. Just like betting against TB12.

3-28 is right around the corner for all you Falcons fans.


Eddie

 

[go_deep]

@Poser @2531usmc
Take your personal banter to pm's so this thread doesn't get locked down.

 

[Brock A]

@Poser @2531usmc
Take your personal banter to pm's so this thread doesn't get locked down.

Don't worry, I like this thread too much to let it go down. But yes, stocks only, everyone!

 

[BBob]

My suggestion is more along the lines of "we've seen these orders come down from companies who know they are in trouble"

That being said, according to Tesla's cash flow statements, the firm spent $6.3 billion on "purchases of property and equipment excluding finance leases, net of sales" in the second half of 2024. However, its balance sheet claims the gross value of property, plant, and equipment rose by only $4.9 billion — leaving a $1.4 billion discrepancy. Now, that could mean all kinds of things, but I don't know how meany of those "things" could be good outcomes for the valuation.

Those accounting discrepancies are not uncommon at all. It is not a "red flag" that something is wrong or being hidden with TSLA. If you look into it all of the large major corps regularly have those accounting discrepancies.