The RAVEN mini action thread

[khuber84]

@Stocky how can it be scaled too small for an arc, but enough for a 223, when the saami cartridge lengths for them are the same?

 

[Brontosaurus]

I've been thinking about it and if your gonna go off the deep end for a UL mountain rifle. Single shot might be the better answer. If you need a true UL weapon then thats what the UL thread is for. A true scaled action would be sweet. But we dont "need" one. (Even though i REALLY want one) Modded tikkas work fine. The insanity of a new ecosystem is a stretch. Creating a single shot from the ground up almost feels more feasible.

The market has been missing a good single shot since TC left. Now your left with mid CVAs or something insane like a blaser kiplauf. No middle ground. More people would get behind a moderately priced correctly designed single shot. Than a overpriced howa mini. Just my 2 cents tho.

 

[Stocky]

@Stocky how can it be scaled too small for an arc, but enough for a 223, when the saami cartridge lengths for them are the same?

Diameter its more efficient for weight in terms of scaling ie why the 84l kimber is way lighter than the 8400 wsm. Decreased diameter decreases weight through the supporting areas and reduces shank diameter. For length the Arcs win really but I just dont see that gain worth it to not have access to the cheapest brass available.

 

[Stocky]

I've been thinking about it and if your gonna go off the deep end for a UL mountain rifle. Single shot might be the better answer. If you need a true UL weapon then thats what the UL thread is for. A true scaled action would be sweet. But we dont "need" one. (Even though i REALLY want one) Modded tikkas work fine. The insanity of a new ecosystem is a stretch. Creating a single shot from the ground up almost feels more feasible.

The market has been missing a good single shot since TC left. Now your left with mid CVAs or something insane like a blaser kiplauf. No middle ground. More people would get behind a moderately priced correctly designed single shot. Than a overpriced howa mini. Just my 2 cents tho.

Id argue a new bolt is way more useful than a single shot. But an aluminium action with steel as required bolt would have similar weight to a single shot. Singles shots are notoriously heavy for similar pressure handling capability. A kimber for example is lighter than almost any other 308 capable singleshot due to inefficiency of the locking mechanism in most single shots.

 

[Brontosaurus]

Id argue a new bolt is way more useful than a single shot. But an aluminium action with steel as required bolt would have similar weight to a single shot. Singles shots are notoriously heavy for similar pressure handling capability. A kimber for example is lighter than almost any other 308 capable singleshot due to inefficiency of the locking mechanism in most single shots.

Fair. But with the single shot you gain a very pleasing oal. Not to mention the ability to stow it. Al actions are cool. An al tikka mini would be insane.

 

[Stocky]

Fair. But with the single shot you gain a very pleasing oal. Not to mention the ability to stow it. Al actions are cool. An al tikka mini would be insane.

Ive actually started modelling an aluminium tikka to use tikka inlets for the smaller cases. The lack of improving length is why I've not setup to make one yet. The mini mag options is a hold up currently and having proprietary mags hurts adoption as does unique inletting but using existing hamstrings good design. The arc in ar mags definitely seems a somewhat easy options with decent coal and still a small efficient case option but brass is so expensive here still.

I do like a short single. I ran a Bergara BA13TD (CVA scout or something in the States) in 308. Would take it down and chuck it in the pack to hitch-hike back to the vehicle to allow longer trips and not need for 2 vehicles.

Ive got a Blaser R8 im going to try lighten to see how i like it for a short repeater and switch barrel setup. May see if I can come up with a machineable way to replicate on a smaller scale. Thats saves roughly 2.5 inchs on even a mini action.

Id expect ill have something in a true sclaed mini action but likely a one off at some stage. Id love to have an off the shelf option though as custom works time consuming and the current options as peopl have said are super good enough. The AR systems are unfortunately a complicated hassle for here in NZ as it seems the easy button. No one seems sure whether they are allowed and I dont want to play games with firearms import laws.