The Oregon Fiasco

[Pacific_Fork]

You mean besides the fact that most the woods cops are state police and sheriffs ?

I’m sorry I don’t follow what you’re saying here…

 

[slvrslngr]

ODFW doesn’t do enforcement, the state police and sheriffs do

 

[Pacific_Fork]

Ah ok, so like Alaska? I don’t hunt Oregon, so excuse my ignorance.

Are the OR state police/sheriffs funded any different for enforcing game laws? Or just through standard tax dollars?

Edit: I see that they are funded in a mixed way, including through license sales. So my original point is “somewhat” valid.

 

[Rogue Bay]

Do you have a link to the interview?

I can’t find that interview online. I wish I could remember where I saw it but a Google search isn’t bringing it up. David Michelson is his name.

 

[Vaultman]

Common OREGON let's get out and VOTE!

 

[Idaho Mtns]

I’ve always enjoyed my eastern OR elk and chuker hunts. Let eastern OR secede and join us in ID.

 

[ODB]

I try not to make ad hominem attacks on folks, but I swear the number of batshit crazy people proposing ideas like this and the even more batshit crazy people who support them is astonishing. There are times I honestly wonder if we are living in a mass delusion event. I mean, how do so many people who are off their rational rockers make a living - and a better one than me - for that matter? Dunno, maybe I'm the crazy one...

 

[jmez]

I anxiously await all of the guys to swoop in and tell us no one is out to ban hunting!

 

[Smokey Bear]

We all know that this only comes from the years of transplants that keep coming, “to get away from it all”, from where they came.
Then they bring their bullshit with them!
Regardless, this has no chance of happening.
Like Forest says..

 

[Hunterscamera]

I can’t find that interview online. I wish I could remember where I saw it but a Google search isn’t bringing it up. David Michelson is his name.

Is this it? Where the actually compares himself to the suffragettes.

 

[mt terry d]

I mean, how do so many people who are off their rational rockers make a living - and a better one than me - for that matter? Dunno, maybe I'm the crazy one...

You're not.
The Fiat $$ system. Pretend jobs that create nothing and stifle production and efficiency of those with real jobs. Couldn't happen without it.

Add in "everyone has a vote" regardless of intelligence, conflicts of interest, no skin in the game and here we are.

 

[Rogue Bay]

Is this it? Where the actually compares himself to the suffragettes.

That isn’t the one I saw but makes me want to vomit nonetheless.

 

[826]

I’ve always enjoyed my eastern OR elk and chuker hunts. Let eastern OR secede and join us in ID.

Not a bad idea because we are headed toward the crowd in Boise being able to outvote the rest of the state before we know it.

 

[Oregon]

It’s only a fiasco if it passes. Unfortunately, being in Oregon, I know a lot of Democrats. Not your antifa loving, rock throwing, trans in girl sports whackos. Just your everyday democrat whackos. The ones who vote D because they always voted D.
The ones I know fill roughly 5 categories.
Educators, medical professionals, dairy farmers, commercial fishermen and recreational fishing/hunters.
I only know or associate with people that hunt or fish. I should say, I only have a conversation with people besides “I’ll take cheese on that” or yes, bring me another beer type conversations.
I also have close to 1000 people a year on my boat to fish. You can get an idea from people by over hearing conversations or what they wear. We plugged full of Dems.
This isn’t a D or R issue. It’s a ballot measure where quite a few folks got lied to too sign.
With all that said, it’s shocking that 150,000 people signed this and my guesstimate is that this will be a 90/10 vote. 90% will vote no.
IF all the interested parties pull together and actually educate the sheep what this ballot measure really entails.

 

[Andrew12gauge]

We all know that this only comes from the years of transplants that keep coming, “to get away from it all”, from where they came.
Then they bring their bullshit with them!
Regardless, this has no chance of happening.
Like Forest says..
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I don’t think you can blame transplants for a law that doesn’t even exist in the place they came from. Oregon doesn’t need liberal transplants to ruin the state, they’ve done a fine job on their own


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[OregonSteeler]

I looked into this a bit more and this initiative would even override native tribe treaties, ultimately making their hunting/fishing traditions illegal. Good luck with that!! They're literally trying to make thousands of years of survival, tradition, community bonding illegal.

How can anyone who participates in self-reliance and hunting/fishing as a food source not feel violated? Hell, even someone who just buys their meat at a grocery store will be negatively affected.

Eating meat is imprinted into our DNA, where the hell do they think they can tell you or I how/what to eat??

 

[SikaSeeker]

As if you weren't aware, "crap" like this comes out of metropolitan areas with big, liberal, socialist voting blocs. Scattered rural voters don't stand a chance.

Why the people who advocate for off grid /homesteading as a politcal thing are gonna get rolled by organised urbanites.

Take back the cities! [For the people of course ]

 

[Tmac]

Not a bad idea because we are headed toward the crowd in Boise being able to outvote the rest of the state before we know it.

Sad but true. First we had the Cal invasion mid 70’s thru 90’s, then Portland made all the best place to live lists 2000’s thru 2017-8 ish, invasion continued and the scope widened, but almost all urban folks. Then enough idiots had moved here that they voted Progressive politics in and we started the death spiral. I put Boise/Idaho about where we were in the early 2000’s.

Now Portland has commercial vacancies of 37% last I checked. Properties selling for 15-20% of accessed values. City revenue falling fast, constantly adding any tax and fees they can think of to offset it, makes more folks leave. My advice is sell any Boise metro area property in the next 5 and no more than 10 years, before the crash. We are outside the death spiral of property values, but have friends caught in it.

Progressivism is a virus that infects people, cities and then states, slowly killing the host if left unchecked.

 

[repins05]

What's happening in Oregon is ridiculous. Don't be fooled by the thought that your state is immune.....including Idaho and Montana. Look what is starting to happen in your larger cities. And yes there is some truth that "transplants" are driving these liberal beliefs.