The opposite of the Rokslide special, tooter and quartering gut shots with large cartridges

[UnckleBob]

Maybe I’m a dumb ass. But are Elk the only animals/mammals that get tougher in there later years. Most mammals as they get towards there life expectancy are not as tough. My 9 year old dog isn’t the same dog as when she was 3. But I hear Tim and JVB talk about 7-13 year old bulls being extremely hard to kill. I’m calling BS.

1) I am not an expert on ass shots unless you count ... nevermind . I don't plan on taking ass shots on anything except possibly a feral hog I am trying to eradicate.

2) I have heard Tim Sundles on two interviews. If I conflate them, I apologize.

3) My takeaways from both interviews:

• He likes to hunt in heavy timber with rifles set up to be effective at short range.
• He thinks the heavy timber is where the old bulls survive.
• JVB And Sundles both believe older bulls are harder to kill. When I listened, my takeaway was that they think older bulls are harder to kill because they are smarter and good at hiding from predators. (I think they are likely right on that theory)
• I did not come away from either podcast thinking they thought old bulls wore body armor. I did come away from the podcast hearing Sundles thinks older bulls have more mass than younger bulls. I could be wrong, but that seemed reasonable.
• His description of his shots didn't strike me as much different than shots I hear are taken at moving animals (shotguns or rifles) on deer drives.
• He wants a cartridge and bullet that allows him to take a shot from any angle if he has to.