The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom

[go_deep]

If accepting evidence means I’m “in with the devil,” that logic works both ways. Under your own theology, it’s God who gave the devil whatever power you think he has, that’s not on me. And this “you’re with the devil” move is used in every religion to dodge hard questions and avoid addressing opposing evidence.

Your statement was never implied to you, directed at you, I simple elaborate on what the previous person posted and replied directly to them.

If I wanted to say something to you, I would have tagged you directly in it like I did the previous post #1295. Buddy I shoot straight, I don't take cheap shots and beat around the bush, this had ZERO to do with you.

 

[go_deep]

I’ve answered that question many times before here. It’s kind of interesting that I respond to the same duplicative believers’ points and get asked the same question numerous times about my purpose, respond to them then get criticized for saying the same thing over and over.

Can you reference previous post numbers? I'll go back and read them.

 

[dylanvb]

I do appreciate this thread because it has helped me do more research and learn more. My understanding has only deepened through this conversation so thank you to those who are engaging.

 

[Phaseolus]

I used to have a bumper sticker on my old VW Beetle. "Honk if you are Jesus". I rarely got honked at and some people flipped me off.

 

[wh0cansay]

God is eternal, not created.

Says who?

 

[wh0cansay]

Sounds more believable than everything came from nothing exploding and becomes everything. That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

That's not what the Big Bang theory asserts though - no serious scientist claims that everything came from 'nothing', we simply don't have reliable models for the initial state yet.

Regardless, I see no difference between stating that everything came from nothing and stating that everything came from one source which was magically always there. If the latter is more palatable to you, drive on, but it sure feels like a cop-out to me.

 

[dylanvb]

The Big Bang is just a scientists way to say God did it but I don’t want to credit God for doing it.

“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1‬:‭1‬-‭4‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

What if it wasn’t a “big” bang but a soft/little bang? Oh uh here comes a whole new theory for people to chase around.

What I love about the science argument is that the science is constantly changing after we make new discoveries. So therefore if you go to science for your beliefs then you have to be willing to accept everything until proven otherwise. So on this basis please use science to disprove creation.


Side note, I found this to be a fantastic discussion.